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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4863969" data-attributes="member: 22779">Oh come on.&nbsp; The vast majority of fantasy pre-LOTR was flat out crap.&nbsp; For every Ladyhawke, you had DungeonMaster starring David Moll (Bull from Night Court).&nbsp; Even the so called &quot;classics&quot; like Highlander are absolutely horrid movies.&nbsp; Let's take France's worst actor, pair him with Scotland's best and we'll make the French guy the Highlander.&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid&nbsp; &nbsp; :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" />Sheena?&nbsp; Red Sonja?&nbsp; Rankin and Bass' Lord of the Rings?&nbsp; Gor?&nbsp; Yor?&nbsp; Beastmaster?&nbsp; The list of B fantasy movies is looooong.&nbsp; And while I watched probably every single one of them, they really were all crap.Umm, what?&nbsp; When was Conan terrified?&nbsp; Ever.&nbsp; I've read the Howard novels and I've watch the movies.&nbsp; At what point is the super-heroic, last son of Atlantis, who is stronger, faster, smarter and more bad assed than everyone around him EVER terrified.Conan was once beaten unconcious, nailed to a cross, left for dead for a day, the cross was then cut down and fell while he was on it, he pulled the nails out of his own hands and legs then rode a horse for an entire night (A Witch is Born).&nbsp; And you're going to say that the ultimate pulp barbarian is somehow less bad assed than heroes today?Wow.I think it's the very nostalgia colored glasses that you wear that disconnect you from &quot;realism&quot; and &quot;simulationism&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4863969, member: 22779"] Oh come on. The vast majority of fantasy pre-LOTR was flat out crap. For every Ladyhawke, you had DungeonMaster starring David Moll (Bull from Night Court). Even the so called "classics" like Highlander are absolutely horrid movies. Let's take France's worst actor, pair him with Scotland's best and we'll make the French guy the Highlander. :uhoh: Sheena? Red Sonja? Rankin and Bass' Lord of the Rings? Gor? Yor? Beastmaster? The list of B fantasy movies is looooong. And while I watched probably every single one of them, they really were all crap. Umm, what? When was Conan terrified? Ever. I've read the Howard novels and I've watch the movies. At what point is the super-heroic, last son of Atlantis, who is stronger, faster, smarter and more bad assed than everyone around him EVER terrified. Conan was once beaten unconcious, nailed to a cross, left for dead for a day, the cross was then cut down and fell while he was on it, he pulled the nails out of his own hands and legs then rode a horse for an entire night (A Witch is Born). And you're going to say that the ultimate pulp barbarian is somehow less bad assed than heroes today? Wow. I think it's the very nostalgia colored glasses that you wear that disconnect you from "realism" and "simulationism". [/QUOTE]

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