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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 4864594" data-attributes="member: 32536">The fact that they are not that high on your inspiration list probably has something to do with the generation gap. People tend to be more inspired by the stuff they first encounter, and the stuff they encountered most often in the younger years.You certainly have a point in saying that D&D has been extremely influential in the modern conception of fantasy, but I think you overstate exactly how influential it is.Sure, the original Final Fantasy blatantly steals a huge number of ideas from D&D in general and Dragonlance in particular, and many of these stolen ideas (such as the Black Mage/White Mage/Red Mage distinction) continue to stay close to the thematic core of the series, but at the same time the Final Fantasy series has gone off to create a huge number of interesting and unique ideas that don't resemble core D&D whatsoever. I mean, at this point a significant fraction of the Final Fantasy games feature modern or futuristic settings in which swordsmen, wizards, guns, cars, and robots all exist side by side, something that D&D itself has not supported whatsoever, and probably won't support any time soon.At the same time, many other videogames have been creating their own ideas and diverging more and more from the D&D default. If anything, the kind of vanilla fantasy that D&D represents is considered old-fashioned and cliché in the realm of modern videogames, and new games are continually pushing the boundaries of fantasy and looking for new inspirations and ideas.So, in a certain sense, D&D is showing its age, even in 4E, more than it is really representing the pinnacle of modern fantasy.To put this in a bit clearer of terms... There are plenty of people I have encountered who seem to not want to see a ninja class, or even ninjas as a whole, in 4E. However, from my own perspective, the ninja may as well be part of the "vanilla core" of fantasy character archetypes, right alongside the knight and the wizard. Ninja certainly are not some kind of exotic thing you only put into an "oriental" campaign you play when you want to try something different for a while. I think the same might be said for the use of firearms in a fantasy game...</blockquote>

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