Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Gaming Generation Gap
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 4871837" data-attributes="member: 32536"><p>Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 7 have no real level grinding to speak of. Final Fantasy Tactics had some level grinding, but only in direct proportion to the number of characters you wanted to use. If you stuck with a limited five character team, it is practically non-existent in that game. </p><p></p><p>You know, I am 25 and <em>I</em> am on the old end of that particular generation gap. The idea of finding Megaman 9 to be unplayably hard is completely alien to me...</p><p></p><p>I don't want to be some kind of English nazi (even though I have the credentials), but if you are talking about the English dub of Cowboy Bebop, then you are talking about an anime, not a manga. "Manga" is the japanese word for comic book, "anime" is just short for animation, and these words are <em>not</em> interchangeable, especially since something Escaflowne has both an anime and a manga version (as well as an anime movie and a second manga series), and these things are extremely different stories.</p><p></p><p>Err... so? That says less about whatever kind of connection they might have than anything mentioned in this thread so far. It doesn't change the fact that they don't have any direct connection whatsoever. The things that <em>Final Fantasy</em> pulled from D&D are <em>very</em> different than the D&Disms that appeared in <em>Record of Lodoss War</em>.</p><p></p><p>I mean, I could clearly argue how <em>Record of Lodoss War</em> was almost certainly a major inspiration for Nintendo's <em>Fire Emblem</em> series, but that argument would not be based on something so simple as which one came first...</p><p></p><p>Support what statements? That some of these things were not published under the name "D&D" and that there were differences in the rulesets between these different games? That Gamma World hasn't been officially supported by the makers of D&D in a long time? What exactly do I need to support regarding these statements? And what on earth do conversions between Vampire and d20 have to do with anything? You are seriously misunderstanding what I have been talking about.</p><p></p><p>You know, I really don't like this entire line of argumentation you are using. You are basically just saying that my desire to see the game change and progress in a certain way is somehow rooted in my own failings. That it is somehow wrong for me to ask that something show in the rules themselves. Honestly, with the line of argumentation you are using, you may as well ask why WotC even puts out books at all...</p><p></p><p>Actually, forget it. I already said what I wanted to say above. I don't want to say any more.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TwinBahamut, post: 4871837, member: 32536"] Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 7 have no real level grinding to speak of. Final Fantasy Tactics had some level grinding, but only in direct proportion to the number of characters you wanted to use. If you stuck with a limited five character team, it is practically non-existent in that game. You know, I am 25 and [i]I[/i] am on the old end of that particular generation gap. The idea of finding Megaman 9 to be unplayably hard is completely alien to me... I don't want to be some kind of English nazi (even though I have the credentials), but if you are talking about the English dub of Cowboy Bebop, then you are talking about an anime, not a manga. "Manga" is the japanese word for comic book, "anime" is just short for animation, and these words are [i]not[/i] interchangeable, especially since something Escaflowne has both an anime and a manga version (as well as an anime movie and a second manga series), and these things are extremely different stories. Err... so? That says less about whatever kind of connection they might have than anything mentioned in this thread so far. It doesn't change the fact that they don't have any direct connection whatsoever. The things that [i]Final Fantasy[/i] pulled from D&D are [i]very[/i] different than the D&Disms that appeared in [i]Record of Lodoss War[/i]. I mean, I could clearly argue how [i]Record of Lodoss War[/i] was almost certainly a major inspiration for Nintendo's [i]Fire Emblem[/i] series, but that argument would not be based on something so simple as which one came first... Support what statements? That some of these things were not published under the name "D&D" and that there were differences in the rulesets between these different games? That Gamma World hasn't been officially supported by the makers of D&D in a long time? What exactly do I need to support regarding these statements? And what on earth do conversions between Vampire and d20 have to do with anything? You are seriously misunderstanding what I have been talking about. You know, I really don't like this entire line of argumentation you are using. You are basically just saying that my desire to see the game change and progress in a certain way is somehow rooted in my own failings. That it is somehow wrong for me to ask that something show in the rules themselves. Honestly, with the line of argumentation you are using, you may as well ask why WotC even puts out books at all... Actually, forget it. I already said what I wanted to say above. I don't want to say any more. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Gaming Generation Gap
Top