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<blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 4875268" data-attributes="member: 32536"><p>This really is much more of a manga thing than anything else... You see it a lot in manga and anime adaptations of a manga series, but it is very rare in most anime series that are not based in manga. It is indeed quite common, but it is not universal.</p><p></p><p>Also, I think something can be said about there being some equivalents to these visual characteristics in western animation, though they tend to take on different forms...</p><p></p><p>And I have no idea what you are going on about with the clothes thing. Clothes say a lot about characters in every from of entertainment, even purely text-based mediums. They don't mean anything more in manga or anime than they do on the street in the real world.</p><p></p><p>You know, I really don't like the assumption (or implication, or whatever you want to call it) in this post that "western" = "realistic" and "anime" = "disproportionate". You are basically arguing that anime is different from western animation based on the idea that anime has stylistic elements. This argument only makes any sense if you take the idea that western animation <em>doesn't</em> have stylized elements as a given.</p><p></p><p>I basically agree that you can tell "anime-styled" forms of art and animation from "western" art and animation, but I think your arguments for doing so and your own perception of the differences are really flawed.</p><p></p><p>Actually, I think I will just say my thoughts outright right now. I think, as a whole, anime art tends to be more realistic than western art on average, and that generally western art tends to use more exaggerated and disproportionate features than anime art. People notice the difference between anime art and western art not because the eyes of characters are bigger in anime, but because everything else looks more normal, making the one remaining disproportion stand out a bit more.</p><p></p><p>Beyond the major points, though, I think your arguments are flawed simply because some of your "facts" are simply wrong. You talk about subdued noses, but some of the most famous characters in anime have noses almost as large as the rest of their heads. Look at the two main scientists from the manga/anime classic <em>Astro Boy</em> if you want to see a good example of that (and this is a story from Osamu Tezuka, the man known as the "Father of Anime" and "God of Manga" whose style has pretty much defined all of anime-style art since).</p><p></p><p>As for the "big eyes" thing, well, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bright_Noah_(Gundam).jpg" target="_blank">this guy</a> is a fairly important and widely recognized anime character, but I would hardly say that he has big eyes...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TwinBahamut, post: 4875268, member: 32536"] This really is much more of a manga thing than anything else... You see it a lot in manga and anime adaptations of a manga series, but it is very rare in most anime series that are not based in manga. It is indeed quite common, but it is not universal. Also, I think something can be said about there being some equivalents to these visual characteristics in western animation, though they tend to take on different forms... And I have no idea what you are going on about with the clothes thing. Clothes say a lot about characters in every from of entertainment, even purely text-based mediums. They don't mean anything more in manga or anime than they do on the street in the real world. You know, I really don't like the assumption (or implication, or whatever you want to call it) in this post that "western" = "realistic" and "anime" = "disproportionate". You are basically arguing that anime is different from western animation based on the idea that anime has stylistic elements. This argument only makes any sense if you take the idea that western animation [i]doesn't[/i] have stylized elements as a given. I basically agree that you can tell "anime-styled" forms of art and animation from "western" art and animation, but I think your arguments for doing so and your own perception of the differences are really flawed. Actually, I think I will just say my thoughts outright right now. I think, as a whole, anime art tends to be more realistic than western art on average, and that generally western art tends to use more exaggerated and disproportionate features than anime art. People notice the difference between anime art and western art not because the eyes of characters are bigger in anime, but because everything else looks more normal, making the one remaining disproportion stand out a bit more. Beyond the major points, though, I think your arguments are flawed simply because some of your "facts" are simply wrong. You talk about subdued noses, but some of the most famous characters in anime have noses almost as large as the rest of their heads. Look at the two main scientists from the manga/anime classic [i]Astro Boy[/i] if you want to see a good example of that (and this is a story from Osamu Tezuka, the man known as the "Father of Anime" and "God of Manga" whose style has pretty much defined all of anime-style art since). As for the "big eyes" thing, well, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bright_Noah_(Gundam).jpg"]this guy[/url] is a fairly important and widely recognized anime character, but I would hardly say that he has big eyes... [/QUOTE]
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