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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fba827" data-source="post: 488968" data-attributes="member: 807">Before I begin, let me say up front that I realize I'm about to sound like a big whiner... really and truthfully, it isn't like that, it just comes off that way because I'm letting this all out at once.Okay - now for the meat of the matter...Question: Given the situation below, should I say something and make an issue of it or let it go -- what would you do?  (I already have a good idea what I will do, just wanted to explore possibilities in case there was something I wasn't considering).Brief setup.  There are 8 of us, none of us met each other prior to a year ago when we started gaming together.  We get together once every 3 - 5 months because of time limitations.  Of the 8 of us, 2 of us are considered "the guys that know the rules" -- one of these guys is myself the other is the person being discussed below -- (note, niether of us is the DM).Anyway, there is one player among us (we'll call Bob) who everyone (but myself) considers to be great at knowing the rules.  The thing is, he doesn't really have as firm a grasp as the others give him credit for and so when he just does or says things, they're considered to be "fine and legit 'cause Bob said he could"It didn't affect me too much at first - I'm an easy going sort of guy and when it was just his character able to do some things he wouldn't otherwise be able to do.  But as the other players start to more and more rely on him for his "expertise" the PCs and NPCs and such are using more skewed and skewed rules ...Some examples: * The distinction between Base Attack bonus and total attack modifier (makes a big difference for someone qualifying for feats and prestige classes and some manuevers such as grapple -- but most notably for qualifying for multiple attacks per round) * (similar to above) the distinction between skill ranks and total skill modifier * caster level for spells not being the same as character level when you're multiclassed * caster level for a ranger or paladin being half the total class level * class level vs. character level for "class based features" (i.e. a paladin's lay on hands that is based on class level using the total character level) * the fact that "Caster level" on magic items is not a prerequisite but rather the determinant for effects from the magic item * bards being able to swap spells around inbetween levels * what classifies as a light weapon (thus reducing the penalties obtained when using two-weapon fighting) * divine casters and spontaneous casting (he keeps choosing whatever spells he wants during the course of the game often allowing him very advantageous results in the midst of everything) * difference between the different types of sight (low light, darkvision, etc.) - several others, but that's to name a few ...This is starting to lead to a couple of things (mostly for me, less so for the others because they are remaining ignorant)...As other players listen to his expertise more and more, we keep going further and further away from the core setup on rules (which in itself I don't mind, I like house rules.. but the above things as an example, it can get out of hand real fast).Also, because his character can do things (like casting his divine spells effectively spontaneously) he can pull out any divine spell (from any of the allowed books) on a whim as needed per the situation which makes him *greatly* outshine the other divine spell casters that have gone through the trouble of preparing spells each morning.I FIRMLY believe that the player is not intentionally doing it, he just believes he is remembering correctly and doesn't bother looking it up.  At the same time, he feels insulted if you ask him for where he got the info from... (tried that very casually three or four times on a specific basis as it came up)Now, I will say everyone seems to be enjoying themselves.  I am the only one who seems to care (alebit, I am the only one who seems to notice -- ah, to be ignorant <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile    :-)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />).Saying something to Bob runs a (very) high risk of inciting a problem... Saying something to the others in the group runs a risk of me being the "complainer and making a big deal out of nothing" (since the others have yet to grasp the rules themselves and the extent that Bob's perception of the rules is different from the core books)... Not saying something runs a high risk of our entire rules basis going to Bob's recollection of the rules rather than based on the core rulebooks.(Again, I already have a very good idea what I will do, just asking in case there is a possibility I am not thinking of.).What would you do?  Relavent thoughts or opinions or personal stories?Edit: Small fix in grammer; experts => expert's  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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