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<blockquote data-quote="shilsen" data-source="post: 3963940" data-attributes="member: 198">Man, no wonder you're grumpy <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />!Of course, what you're saying here doesn't really support the idea that it &quot;can't be done,&quot; but rather that you find a high trust environment fairly rare. Apparently I've been really lucky in my gaming, especially in view of some of the horror stories I've heard on ENWorld and elsewhere, but the vast majority of my gaming has occurred in high trust environments. Admittedly in some cases I've had to work (and in those cases I was never the only one) to make them achieve that status, but it was never that difficult. And in a couple of cases, I gave it some time and when it became clear that won't happen, I dropped out.I guess it's a matter of taste, standards and assumptions, but that's just not acceptable for me in either my gaming or my human interactions.As noted above, clearly I've somehow been getting the cream of the crop. You guys have my sympathies! Okay, let me amend that. You really have my sympathies! That so doesn't describe most of the people I've gamed and currently game with.Amen. I'm not willing to do anything with people I don't like or respect.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="shilsen, post: 3963940, member: 198"] Man, no wonder you're grumpy :D! Of course, what you're saying here doesn't really support the idea that it "can't be done," but rather that you find a high trust environment fairly rare. Apparently I've been really lucky in my gaming, especially in view of some of the horror stories I've heard on ENWorld and elsewhere, but the vast majority of my gaming has occurred in high trust environments. Admittedly in some cases I've had to work (and in those cases I was never the only one) to make them achieve that status, but it was never that difficult. And in a couple of cases, I gave it some time and when it became clear that won't happen, I dropped out. I guess it's a matter of taste, standards and assumptions, but that's just not acceptable for me in either my gaming or my human interactions. As noted above, clearly I've somehow been getting the cream of the crop. You guys have my sympathies! Okay, let me amend that. You [b]really[/b] have my sympathies! That so doesn't describe most of the people I've gamed and currently game with. Amen. I'm not willing to do anything with people I don't like or respect. [/QUOTE]

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