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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Walking Dad" data-source="post: 5437284" data-attributes="member: 59043">I will cite the OGC material regarding Hit Points in this post. Terms that are product identity of Green Ronin will be replaced by open terms from other d20 products. (BTW, the open PRD from Paizo has a 'Hero Point' section that describes their Action Point Variant (under <a href="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advanced/advancedNewRules.html" target="_blank">Advanced New Rules</a>).)Masterminds Manual p. 3BBM[sblock=Hit Points]HIT POINTSThe damage rules in M&M are intended to speed play and simulatethe kind of damage characters suffer in superhero comic books.Some players may prefer a damage system more compatible withother games, in which case the variant rules presented here may beused. They require the use of additional dice used in other roleplayinggames, available at game and hobby stores.HIT POINTSCharacters in this system have hit points, which are a measure ofthe character’s capacity to take damage. Characters have hit pointsequal to their Constitution score plus their Constitution bonus multipliedby 3. So a Con 10 character has 10 hit points and a Con 30character has 60 hit points. Characters with no Con score have hitpoints equal to five times their Toughness. This needs to be changed in a class using variant. Minions have half thenormal hit points of regular characters; determine the minion’s hitpoint total normally, then divide it by two and round down.When the character suffers lethal damage, hit points are marked off.Characters are disabled at 0 hit points, dying at –1 or fewer hit points,and dead at –10 hit points. If a single lethal attack does more damagethan the character’s Constitution score, he must make a Fortitude save(DC 15) or immediately go to –1 hit points and dying.Stun attacks do not inflict damage to hit points. Instead, they dosubdual damage. When the total subdual damage equals the character’shit points, he is staggered. When the total subdual damageexceeds his current hit points, he is unconscious. If a single attackdoes more damage (subdual or hit points) than the character’sConstitution score, he is stunned for one round. Interesting the rules keep stunning. Other systems don't have a mechanic like this. But they have Massive Damage rules for single high damage attacks. RECOVERYCharacters reduce their subdual damage by their Constitution bonusfor each minute of rest, with a minimum of 1 point per minute. Theyrecover their Constitution bonus in hit points for each day of rest witha minimum of 1 point per day. Recovery speeds up these recovery ratesas usual, while a use of the Healing power allows the character torecover 1d6 hit points (or eliminate 1d6 subdual damage) per powerrank. Proper medical treatment doubles recovery rates, as usual.1d6 seems to be the standard when converting ranks to dice.DAMAGE DICEInstead of having a damage bonus, attacks inflict a certain numberof dice of damage. An attack with a +1 damage bonus does 1d4 hitpoints of damage, +2 = 1d6, +3 = 1d8, and +4 or higher equals anumber of d6s equal to the attack’s bonus, minus 2. d6 for higher damage ranks. So, an attackwith a damage bonus of +8 does 6d6 hit points of damage instead.Stun and lethal damage remain the same. Attacks that do not inflictdamage, including Dazzle or Snare attacks, still require the normalsaving throw and have their normal effects.A critical hit doubles the amount of damage an attack inflicts.Roll the normal dice and multiply the total by two before applyingthe damage to the target.DAMAGE REDUCTIONInstead of adding to the character’s Toughness saving throws, powersoffering a Toughness save bonus provide damage reduction, reducingthe amount of damage inflicted. Multiply the power’s Toughnessbonus by 2 and reduce the damage inflicted by each attack on thecharacter by this amount. If the damage is reduced to 0 or less, ithas no effect on the character. For example, a hero with Protection11 ignores the first 22 points of damage from each attack.Impervious defenses multiply their Toughness bonus by 3 ratherthan 2 to determine their Damage Reduction. So ImperviousProtection 11 provides damage reduction 33.The Toughness save bonus from Defensive Roll also becomesDamage Reduction, but with the same limitations as before.Sounds like this DR is also Energy resistance of all types. Should maybe become a separate power.DAMAGING OBJECTSObjects have hit points equal to their Toughness x 5 and hardness(damage reduction) equal to twice their Toughness. When an objectreaches 0 hit points, it is broken or destroyed.Will use the d20 modern rule for theseACTION POINTSHeroes can spend action points to recover from damage just as theycan in the regular M&M system. An action point allows immediaterecovery of (Con bonus) hit points or subdual damage.Note: The Action Points in M&M also have the feat emulation quality.FIXED RESULTSRather than rolling for damage, the GM may choose to make it afixed result, such as 3 hit points of damage per point of damagebonus (so +12 damage does 36 hit points of damage). You can evencombine fixed results with dice, such as having all but the last twodice of an attack fixed (in which case +12 damage does 30 + 2d6points of damage). Fixed results can speed things up, since playerswon’t have to roll and add up as many dice.This is a great idea! Should be applied to other damage rolls as well!WOUND & VITALITY POINTSWound & Vitality (W&V) points are a variant of hit points. Instead of asingle pool of points to reflect damage, characters have two values.Wound points represent the character’s ability to sustain injury.Loss of wound points represents actual physical harm the charactersuffers. Characters have wound points equal to their Constitutionscore (or twice their Toughness for characters with no Con score).Wound points operate like hit points in terms of the characters condition(see the Hit Points section, previously).Vitality points represent a character’s ability to avoid harm: ducking,weaving, or otherwise escaping injury. As vitality points are lostaway, the character is being worn down to the point where a wrongmove will result in injury. Characters have vitality points equal totwice their Constitution score (four times their Toughness for characterswith no Con score). Characters with no vitality points remainingsuffer wound damage from attacks. We have to replace this with HD/level in a class based variant.Minions in the W&V system have no vitality points; they have onlywound points, so all attacks injure them and they’re more likely tobe taken out by an attack.[/sblock]DISCLAIMER: If their is any legal problem with posting the OGC information here to make a non-commercial fan variant that combines the CLASS and the HIT POINTS variant, please PM me.This also goes to the fine staff of Green Ronin. I only started this thread after a new edition of the rules came out. Please PM me directly if you want it deleted because it could diminish you sales. Thanks.</blockquote>

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