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<blockquote data-quote="rpgramen" data-source="post: 4765601" data-attributes="member: 49052"><p>I'll take a stab at it, though I'm certainly no Math Wizard <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p>So, roughly, I think this is what it translates to: You need a minimum of 13 SR to purchase it at, and each point above 12 costs 10,000gp. Mathematically, I'd probably guesstimate (yeah, I totally went there with that venacular <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />) that SR 13 by itself would cost 10,000gp, as no price is given for any lower SR. Now, to knock it up to 30, we'd need to take on the extra price with the same formula. The new item now costs 180,000gp. Now that we have that part figured out, we need to determine a few other factos. It's Continuous, obviously, so that formula comes into play in the form of (Spell Level*Caster Level)*2000gp. Spell Resistance is a 5th Level Spell, and to get it to SR 30, the Caster needs to be at least Level 18. This translates to (5*18)*2000, or another 180,000gp. For the last factor, according to the Affinity Slot Chart, Bracers don't normally have SR. Due to this, you use the Uncustomary Space Limitation addition, which multiplies the entire cost by 1.5. This brings all of our totals thusfar to 540,000gp for Bracers of SR 30, assuming they have nothing else.</p><p> </p><p><u>The Breakdown is Thusly:</u></p><p> </p><p>Base SR 30: 180,000gp (That's 10,000*[SR 30 - SR 12])</p><p>+Continuous: 180,000gp (That's [Spell Level 5*Caster Level 18]*2000gp)</p><p>+Uncustomary Space Limitation: (That's Total Cost*1.5)</p><p>Total: 540,000gp</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>While I can't vouch for Jemal, from my understanding you always use the greatest bonus. So, yes, if you used a Tome of Understanding +2 and then used Wish to give yourself a permanent +5 to Wisdom, you'd only get the +5 as an Inherent Bonus, since the two are essentially the same. As a rule of thumb, "same things" generally don't stack in DnD. As far as Wonderous items, those DO stack with Ineherent Bonuses -- i.e. Wish/Magic Tomes -- in regards to increasing ability scores. This is, of course, just how I interpret things.</p><p> </p><p>Should Wish and Tomes stack, if anyone's got some extra gold to sling around, I'd be your bestestest friend for some more Wisdom <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/reincarnate.htm" target="_blank">No, sir. Only by Druids <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></a></p><p> </p><p>Also, I <3 you, <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/index.htm" target="_blank">Hypertext d20 SRD</a> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p> </p><p>P.S. On an unrelated note, should I make it into the game, Sabastian's remaining Level Up's will be spent on the Exemplar Prestige Class from Complete Adventurer. Just putting it out there <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rpgramen, post: 4765601, member: 49052"] I'll take a stab at it, though I'm certainly no Math Wizard :) So, roughly, I think this is what it translates to: You need a minimum of 13 SR to purchase it at, and each point above 12 costs 10,000gp. Mathematically, I'd probably guesstimate (yeah, I totally went there with that venacular :p) that SR 13 by itself would cost 10,000gp, as no price is given for any lower SR. Now, to knock it up to 30, we'd need to take on the extra price with the same formula. The new item now costs 180,000gp. Now that we have that part figured out, we need to determine a few other factos. It's Continuous, obviously, so that formula comes into play in the form of (Spell Level*Caster Level)*2000gp. Spell Resistance is a 5th Level Spell, and to get it to SR 30, the Caster needs to be at least Level 18. This translates to (5*18)*2000, or another 180,000gp. For the last factor, according to the Affinity Slot Chart, Bracers don't normally have SR. Due to this, you use the Uncustomary Space Limitation addition, which multiplies the entire cost by 1.5. This brings all of our totals thusfar to 540,000gp for Bracers of SR 30, assuming they have nothing else. [U]The Breakdown is Thusly:[/U] Base SR 30: 180,000gp (That's 10,000*[SR 30 - SR 12]) +Continuous: 180,000gp (That's [Spell Level 5*Caster Level 18]*2000gp) +Uncustomary Space Limitation: (That's Total Cost*1.5) Total: 540,000gp While I can't vouch for Jemal, from my understanding you always use the greatest bonus. So, yes, if you used a Tome of Understanding +2 and then used Wish to give yourself a permanent +5 to Wisdom, you'd only get the +5 as an Inherent Bonus, since the two are essentially the same. As a rule of thumb, "same things" generally don't stack in DnD. As far as Wonderous items, those DO stack with Ineherent Bonuses -- i.e. Wish/Magic Tomes -- in regards to increasing ability scores. This is, of course, just how I interpret things. Should Wish and Tomes stack, if anyone's got some extra gold to sling around, I'd be your bestestest friend for some more Wisdom :p [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/reincarnate.htm"]No, sir. Only by Druids :([/URL] Also, I <3 you, [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/index.htm"]Hypertext d20 SRD[/URL] :D P.S. On an unrelated note, should I make it into the game, Sabastian's remaining Level Up's will be spent on the Exemplar Prestige Class from Complete Adventurer. Just putting it out there :D [/QUOTE]
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