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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kinem" data-source="post: 6053641" data-attributes="member: 24234">I'm not saying there's a problem in this case, but regarding 'instant joining of the party': I certainly agree it should not be glossed over like it's nothing; but at the same time, players have a responsibility to create a character that will fit in the game, just as creating a paladin in an evil campaign would be no good.In another face to face game, there was a new character who needed to be recruited into the party. He had some kind of mundane profession, I think, as his background. We tried several arguments to convince him to join us. He considered our best arguments and kept saying something to the effect of 'No, that's not quite enough to convince me'. Out of character, he claimed he (the player) really wanted his character to join the party and make it work. Well, it seemed to the rest of us that he had ample reason to do so in character, and was just holding out because the player was being a dick. The character had to be scrapped and he brought in a new one. He blamed us and the DM for not giving his PC good enough reasons to join the party; we blamed him. It was totally his fault and I wasn't too upset when he left the group.</blockquote>