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<blockquote data-quote="Binder Fred" data-source="post: 6055552" data-attributes="member: 63746"><p><strong>Re Hiding,</strong> I actually don't think multiple successive Hides work, but I have been wrong before. HiPS specifically removes the requirement for cover when hiding, certainly. It doesn't, to my mind, remove all the *other* requirements of begining a Hide (though Jemal has ruled for "absence is proof of consent" before, so who knows): must not be observed, even casually, or must be at least 10' away from an observer if successfully hidden before an attack (as described in Snipping).</p><p></p><p>Also consider that hiding after an attack (Snipping) requires spending a Move action (see the Action paragraph at the end of the <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/hide.htm" target="_blank">Hide skill description</a>) and that, contrarely to a simple use of the Hide skill, HiPS, being a Supernatural ability, actually <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#supernaturalAbilities" target="_blank">requires a Standard action</a> to activate. </p><p></p><p>So at the very least a hiding character needs a Move to re-hide after an attack, and at worse, if Jemal rules for the need to re-hide, he will need to spend a Standard and be at least 10' away from hostile observers.</p><p></p><p>I'm sorry if you see this as a personnal attack again, D'Raven, but I'm only reading the rules as written (and hoping they make sense when I'm finished reading).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Binder Fred, post: 6055552, member: 63746"] [B]Re Hiding,[/B] I actually don't think multiple successive Hides work, but I have been wrong before. HiPS specifically removes the requirement for cover when hiding, certainly. It doesn't, to my mind, remove all the *other* requirements of begining a Hide (though Jemal has ruled for "absence is proof of consent" before, so who knows): must not be observed, even casually, or must be at least 10' away from an observer if successfully hidden before an attack (as described in Snipping). Also consider that hiding after an attack (Snipping) requires spending a Move action (see the Action paragraph at the end of the [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/hide.htm"]Hide skill description[/URL]) and that, contrarely to a simple use of the Hide skill, HiPS, being a Supernatural ability, actually [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#supernaturalAbilities"]requires a Standard action[/URL] to activate. So at the very least a hiding character needs a Move to re-hide after an attack, and at worse, if Jemal rules for the need to re-hide, he will need to spend a Standard and be at least 10' away from hostile observers. I'm sorry if you see this as a personnal attack again, D'Raven, but I'm only reading the rules as written (and hoping they make sense when I'm finished reading). [/QUOTE]
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