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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jemal" data-source="post: 6055655" data-attributes="member: 9026">After re-reading all the relevant rules, here's how I'm ruling it : HIPS is supposed to be a passive effect that alters how you hide, so I'll say it requires the same action as hiding.Hiding while attacking vs sniping is a little more difficult.I believe the sniping rule is MEANT to reflect not being seen at all (immediately rehide), As far as I see it, if you snipe they DONT see you, with the melee versions they see you in between hide checks, so there is a purpose to the sniping being more time consuming.Hiding while attacking.. I read it as meaning "if you attack, run, or charge during the same turn in which you hide, you take a -20 to hide checks". Normally, without the ability to move between attacks, this would not be an issue, as you need to hide as part of movement, it's because of the combination that it seems so powerful.With that in mind, I'm also going to say that the Movement speed penalty would be CUMULATIVE with the -20 for attacking, so if you were going greater than half speed AND attacking, you would have a -25 to your check.*Also on a side note, I've lost my PHB and am using the SRD - it doesn't have a penalty given for moving at full speed.. it says -5 for over half but less than normal, -20 for charging/running.. nothing for 'normal speed'... wtf?  Is this a missing chart that's in the phb or just another omission?  I was always under the assumption that full speed was -10, now I'm not sure if I actually read that somewhere or just made it as a house rule..</blockquote>

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