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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5787441" data-attributes="member: 957">But you have not demonstrated it at all.  Yes, you could run Tomb of Horrors in exactly that matter with every bit of the narrativist elements removed.But what you would be left with would truly be a "GAME".I could run Descent or play WoW and in every way produce exactly the same experiences you have described.  But they don't provide the same experience as a RPG does when *I* play it.Oh, and for the record, Panda Bears have BEAR right there in the name.And hitting a little closer to home.  WoW is an MMORPG.  So I guess if that standard works then it isn't that you are claiming that removing narrative elements detracts from the game so much as, perhaps, that ADDING them doesn't bring anything.  Which may be your view.  But if it is then you are missing out on what a lot of us REALLY enjoy.  Now it may be that you are part of the great majority of society and simply don't enjoy that.  No complaint there.  But if that is the case, I don't see any reason to consider you comments as a meaningful contribution to a conversation aimed at people who do.</blockquote>