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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 5802690"><p>I don't really see the Rawls comparison here. Rawls had an idea which he attempted to prove through a clear argument, but he is a philosopher. There is no way to test Rawls idea in a lab, especially since it is an argument about what "ought to be" not what "is". But Edwards, IMO, fails to build an argument that can be met. He begins with a conclusion and procedes from there. In my mind the burden is on Edwards to prove his position has merit. Also, Edwards is describing something that could easily be tested. There may be some debate about method and results, but there are ways to obtain data about agendas are at the table. So i don't feel he can rely on asserton or argumention alone. </p><p></p><p>If he was just a blogger giving his two cents this wouldn't be an issue. As a gm i comb blogs for advice that may be useful and try it out. But he has built a model and website around these ideas. So he clearly wants them to be taken seriously.</p><p></p><p>On the whole brain damage thing, i don't think there is any good ustification for that. We already had a lengthy debate about ths at therpgsite, so I wont get too into my views again, but he began with comparing a style he didn't like to brain damage (going further and saying actual real harm was done to the mind) and ended by comparing it to sexual abuse. That doesn't disprove his ideas. However it definitely says something about his rhetorical style.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 5802690"] I don't really see the Rawls comparison here. Rawls had an idea which he attempted to prove through a clear argument, but he is a philosopher. There is no way to test Rawls idea in a lab, especially since it is an argument about what "ought to be" not what "is". But Edwards, IMO, fails to build an argument that can be met. He begins with a conclusion and procedes from there. In my mind the burden is on Edwards to prove his position has merit. Also, Edwards is describing something that could easily be tested. There may be some debate about method and results, but there are ways to obtain data about agendas are at the table. So i don't feel he can rely on asserton or argumention alone. If he was just a blogger giving his two cents this wouldn't be an issue. As a gm i comb blogs for advice that may be useful and try it out. But he has built a model and website around these ideas. So he clearly wants them to be taken seriously. On the whole brain damage thing, i don't think there is any good ustification for that. We already had a lengthy debate about ths at therpgsite, so I wont get too into my views again, but he began with comparing a style he didn't like to brain damage (going further and saying actual real harm was done to the mind) and ended by comparing it to sexual abuse. That doesn't disprove his ideas. However it definitely says something about his rhetorical style. [/QUOTE]
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