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<blockquote data-quote="fireinthedust" data-source="post: 4923982" data-attributes="member: 51930">With all due respect:&nbsp; Pfft, fiddle faddle.&nbsp; he did serve a deity in that he was sent from the west by more powerful Maiar.&nbsp; He's a servant of the more powerful ones, the whole point of being on middle earth.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The vague &quot; he serves life&quot; is missing the point.&nbsp; Tolkien was all about the Christianity, as was his friend CS Lewis.&nbsp; Sure, Gandalf serves life, but the idea that it would have been that vague is just off.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Class/race:&nbsp; well, Gandalf isn't 4e.&nbsp; I might suggest a Defender (as he marks the Balrog) and perhaps a Leader build; but he is a Wizard, and in fact *the* wizard, so let's not get too far from that.&nbsp; One of the classes should be divine, the other arcane.&nbsp; Somehow he should have the ability to teleport (as he could appear and disappear when he wants).&nbsp;&nbsp; Race, I think, mechanically and theme-wise Deva really works; looks I don't think so, as for all appearances he was an old man.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I'd argue a hybrid Swordmage/Invoker, or a Paladin/Wizard.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would certainly go Deva, but ask the GM to allow you to re-skin him.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; In fact, I'd go Paladin/wizard simply because &quot;you shall not pass!&quot; is marking him.&nbsp; However, as this is massive MAD, I'd suggest going Swordmage/Cleric or Swordmage/Invoker (sword and staff).&nbsp;&nbsp;Tier:&nbsp; Heroic.&nbsp; The whole series is heroic, getting into Paragon.&nbsp; Epic Tier is about fighting the Maiar.&nbsp; There are epic stats for Tiamat and Vecna, so I think LOTR is well below their level.&nbsp; We're talking initially 1st level halflings, moving into a normal adventuring party and dungeon crawl; then a massive battlefield set of adventures; and Frodo's gruelling two-book skill challenge.&nbsp; This is hardly Epic, this is obviously up to late heroic/early Paragon tier.&nbsp; &nbsp; The Balrog, mind you, is *not* a Balor, despite the similarity in their design.&nbsp; I'd say a solo monster version, marked by Gandalf on the bridge of Kazad-doom, probably a Solo Brute or Soldier.&nbsp; &nbsp; Gandalf died, but came back as a Paragon Path &quot;The White Wizard&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fireinthedust, post: 4923982, member: 51930"] With all due respect: Pfft, fiddle faddle. he did serve a deity in that he was sent from the west by more powerful Maiar. He's a servant of the more powerful ones, the whole point of being on middle earth. The vague " he serves life" is missing the point. Tolkien was all about the Christianity, as was his friend CS Lewis. Sure, Gandalf serves life, but the idea that it would have been that vague is just off. Class/race: well, Gandalf isn't 4e. I might suggest a Defender (as he marks the Balrog) and perhaps a Leader build; but he is a Wizard, and in fact *the* wizard, so let's not get too far from that. One of the classes should be divine, the other arcane. Somehow he should have the ability to teleport (as he could appear and disappear when he wants). Race, I think, mechanically and theme-wise Deva really works; looks I don't think so, as for all appearances he was an old man. I'd argue a hybrid Swordmage/Invoker, or a Paladin/Wizard. I would certainly go Deva, but ask the GM to allow you to re-skin him. In fact, I'd go Paladin/wizard simply because "you shall not pass!" is marking him. However, as this is massive MAD, I'd suggest going Swordmage/Cleric or Swordmage/Invoker (sword and staff). Tier: Heroic. The whole series is heroic, getting into Paragon. Epic Tier is about fighting the Maiar. There are epic stats for Tiamat and Vecna, so I think LOTR is well below their level. We're talking initially 1st level halflings, moving into a normal adventuring party and dungeon crawl; then a massive battlefield set of adventures; and Frodo's gruelling two-book skill challenge. This is hardly Epic, this is obviously up to late heroic/early Paragon tier. The Balrog, mind you, is *not* a Balor, despite the similarity in their design. I'd say a solo monster version, marked by Gandalf on the bridge of Kazad-doom, probably a Solo Brute or Soldier. Gandalf died, but came back as a Paragon Path "The White Wizard". [/QUOTE]

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