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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fireinthedust" data-source="post: 4924024" data-attributes="member: 51930">Encouragement: yes, definitely.  And I think it'd be fun to crunch out a few LOTR adventures in 4e.  Sorry if I came on too strong <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!    :o"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /> Secondaries:  I like the party composition idea, but I think it likely there was a massive 9 person party, and that in the second book the players split up: the GM had three nights a week, but Frodo and Sam could only make it on a night that none of the others could; ditto Pippin and Merry.  As such, the GM ran some solo sessions for kicks, using sub-groups.   At any rate, after the pottery lessons were done with for whoever, and those other guys came back from wherever, the group slowly trickled back together.   There. Maybe Gandalf's secondary was Gollum.  I smell GM's girlfriend or roommate... I'll work on some builds when I get home to my computer.  It is a challenge, so thanks for starting this thread! Wizard:  I mean that he was called a wizard by the dwarves in the hobbit; and the White Wizard by Treebeard.  Just saying <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />      I wonder if in general the few spellcasters could each be from a different power source: arcane, divine, necrotic (sauron/witch king), primal (radagast), etc.  Since they're each the only ones of their kind, the players could choose any of their associated classes to draw powers from maybe?   If it was a Hybrid combo, could we also allow multi-classing feats to be taken?  Or whichever combo the GM would allow? Aragorn would start as a Ranger, then multiclass paragon into Warlord; it could be argued we use Half-elf for him, and give him a  cleric power (healing hands) as dilettante.  Gimli: obviously fighter, hand axes and other big axes.  Dwarven Defender when he gets up there, maybe?Legolas: Archery ranger, full stop; no need to go further.Boromi: sword and board fighter, maybe Warlord, but dies before paragon; doesn't act warlordy, so that part is fluff we never come across.Faramir: Boromir's replacement, likely Warlord; ritual caster, as I'd heard he was taught by Gandalf, but I wouldn't hold to that.  Pippin: thief, ie: Rogue.Merry: um, rogue.Frodo: rogue.Sam: fighter, specializing in club/frying pan. The Hobbit:Thorin: warlordBard: not a bard; ranger... meh, the GM was probably tired of a player bragging about their character, and let him have one good shot in.Beorn: Warden, maybe Bear Warrior PP; maybe Druid/Beastmaster hybrid?</blockquote>

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