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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 4924220" data-attributes="member: 82504">Rulers tend to not like what they cannot control (or which they envy) Aragorn too may have been disliked by rulers and over shadowed them when it came to inspiring their men. Charisma is wrapped up the intimidation trick... so spooky can be a manifestation of it. So there is plenty of room for a somewhat or very charismatic, Gandalf.Interestingly the Deva different lifetimes schtick has some other advantages...In the silmarillion he was a broadscale bringer of hope and differently charismatic healer in the third age he is the storm crow and foreteller of change... before becoming Gandalf the White... he had more defender cast and after perhaps more striker... at least that is how I am reading it.nice charismatic ... is good at diplomacy... mean charismatic is good at intimidtation..can you have both? ...maybe but you really have to control your context and sometimes being trained or not trained may be a personality change. You could argue that during the third age he has intimidate as a trained skill and a high charisma but relies on that charisma without having diplomacy as a trained skill... in a previous incarnation he had diplomacy as a trained skill but not intimidation.I guess the reason I ran through the above is allowing for a higher charisma Gandalf as an Intimidating Paladin ...  frees up some build options it also points towards his role in the Third age.(herald of hope is sort of the old Gandalf and he chafes at being less able to influence people the way he used to -- OK that is my interpretation).... The change might have finished itself with his charisma going lower and his wisdom rising when he became Gandalf the White... he became more aloof less connected at that point... a full acceptance of the new role.</blockquote>

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