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<blockquote data-quote="Eric Finley" data-source="post: 4765420" data-attributes="member: 83401"><p>Ricardo... PLEASE just go back up to the OP, and look at the section (delineated by ===== separators) which begins with "Worst yet,...". Initiative order Rogue-Cleric-Monster-Warlock; on turn one, Warlock readies an action for after one of Cleric's actions. All perfectly reasonable on everyone's part.</p><p></p><p>By your interpretation, it would seem that either round two cannot end (because the only thing Warlock has done between its start and its end is his readied action, he doesn't have a turn during this time), or Warlock is not permitted to do this (because it would cause the game to stall out per the above). It seems clear to us that this is not the case. This isn't us taking your assertion to a ridiculous extreme, dude... it's the bare core of what you asserted.</p><p></p><p>I leave it up to your behaviour in the light of this very reasonable reference, to material that was in the OP for Pete's sake, to clarify trollishness or otherwise.</p><p></p><p>If, on the other hand, your only objection is to the abusive form of what I pointed out (especially the recursive form which, happily, we've dealt with inside of RAW), then you can walk away. Everyone agrees that it's ridiculous. However, it is nonetheless legal by RAW, and references to p.288 won't help you there because delay is not readying, and nothing in RAW connects the two.</p><p></p><p>Whereas I would say that this clearly only applies to the Delay Turn action, as written. And that in order to apply it to the Ready Action text, you need a fix, and one which does so in a careful way that doesn't insert more problems. (See half the suggestions by people in this thread, such as having your readied action constitute your turn.)</p><p></p><p>Which is what I've done. Quite reasonably and calmly. Helps to be Canadian.</p><p></p><p>And then you swore about it. Your call, dude. Your call.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eric Finley, post: 4765420, member: 83401"] Ricardo... PLEASE just go back up to the OP, and look at the section (delineated by ===== separators) which begins with "Worst yet,...". Initiative order Rogue-Cleric-Monster-Warlock; on turn one, Warlock readies an action for after one of Cleric's actions. All perfectly reasonable on everyone's part. By your interpretation, it would seem that either round two cannot end (because the only thing Warlock has done between its start and its end is his readied action, he doesn't have a turn during this time), or Warlock is not permitted to do this (because it would cause the game to stall out per the above). It seems clear to us that this is not the case. This isn't us taking your assertion to a ridiculous extreme, dude... it's the bare core of what you asserted. I leave it up to your behaviour in the light of this very reasonable reference, to material that was in the OP for Pete's sake, to clarify trollishness or otherwise. If, on the other hand, your only objection is to the abusive form of what I pointed out (especially the recursive form which, happily, we've dealt with inside of RAW), then you can walk away. Everyone agrees that it's ridiculous. However, it is nonetheless legal by RAW, and references to p.288 won't help you there because delay is not readying, and nothing in RAW connects the two. Whereas I would say that this clearly only applies to the Delay Turn action, as written. And that in order to apply it to the Ready Action text, you need a fix, and one which does so in a careful way that doesn't insert more problems. (See half the suggestions by people in this thread, such as having your readied action constitute your turn.) Which is what I've done. Quite reasonably and calmly. Helps to be Canadian. And then you swore about it. Your call, dude. Your call. [/QUOTE]
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