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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7896450" data-attributes="member: 4937">I reject that as categorically and completely false. It is the reoccurrence of old nasty stereotypes perpetrated by the dominate culture against a subculture without the social cache or voice to counter those stereotypes. There is nothing specific to nerd or fan groups being exclusionary any more than any other group, and there is nothing particularly endemic about nerd groups being less excepting or more discriminatory than the population as a whole. It is a baseless slander used to victimize a group that to this day still does not have and is only slowly getting positive representation in the media.It is disgusting to sit here on EnWorld of all places while these stereotypes are reaffirmed. No, real comic book store owners don't always look and think like "comic book guy", nor is obesity or social dysfunctionality a trait "specific and endemic to... nerd culture." And sure the nerd culture has at times contained many neuro-atypical types, but that is only because it stood out as a safe place where they could go without the normal levels of stigmatization and scorn that they recieved everywhere else. But it is equally not true that either all nerds are neuro-atypical, nor is it true that all neuro-atypical people lack basic social skills, and all the rest of the stereotype.This self-flagellation needs to stop. The nerd culture and the technical culture are at least as welcoming presently and historically, and in most cases much more welcoming than the culture as a whole. We need to stop pretending that things like "Hidden Figures" told a remotely true story, as if the "nerds" were the unwelcoming, discriminatory, and derogatory culture.This whole crap about how the nerds are worse than everyone else just needs to stop.Semantics matter.</blockquote>

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