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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7751622" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Agreed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Also agreed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed. </p><p></p><p>My point is that we seem to be trying to apply the term "gatekeeping" to things that aren't gatekeeping, and I'm not sure what is the more destructive outcome of doing that, that it would excuse actual discriminatory gatekeeping based on stereotypes or that it would condemn what is actually necessary for the health of a community.</p><p></p><p>By this broad usage you yourself are a gatekeeper for a community, in perhaps a more literal sense than we would use it for some dork at a convention saying girls weren't welcome at his table. Yet, I don't think either of us think your role as gatekeeper needs to be absolutely abolished as a thing inherently unhealthy. (Even if we may quibble at times over the standards a gatekeeper ought to uphold.) And in that way, I don't like the term "gatekeeping" at all, since it seems to be the sort of term that is prone to misunderstanding and misuse. It seems to be a term borrowed from one academic discipline into another field, and which was being applied metaphorically in the first place and now we have metaphors of metaphors of metaphors. That to me strikes as decay of meaning, and if we can't avoid that, we should drop the metaphors and just talk plainly about the thing itself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7751622, member: 4937"] Agreed. Also agreed. Agreed. My point is that we seem to be trying to apply the term "gatekeeping" to things that aren't gatekeeping, and I'm not sure what is the more destructive outcome of doing that, that it would excuse actual discriminatory gatekeeping based on stereotypes or that it would condemn what is actually necessary for the health of a community. By this broad usage you yourself are a gatekeeper for a community, in perhaps a more literal sense than we would use it for some dork at a convention saying girls weren't welcome at his table. Yet, I don't think either of us think your role as gatekeeper needs to be absolutely abolished as a thing inherently unhealthy. (Even if we may quibble at times over the standards a gatekeeper ought to uphold.) And in that way, I don't like the term "gatekeeping" at all, since it seems to be the sort of term that is prone to misunderstanding and misuse. It seems to be a term borrowed from one academic discipline into another field, and which was being applied metaphorically in the first place and now we have metaphors of metaphors of metaphors. That to me strikes as decay of meaning, and if we can't avoid that, we should drop the metaphors and just talk plainly about the thing itself. [/QUOTE]
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