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<blockquote data-quote="Starglim" data-source="post: 2117401" data-attributes="member: 17011"><p>If the creature is under control, it departs at the end of the spell. If not, it can stay as long as it pleases and still use its one-time return ticket when it wants to.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The creature must leave when dismissed and is not entitled to a reward or other consideration. If it later decided anyway to use its own abilities to come after the summoner, that would be a separate encounter, not an effect of the spell, and would be eligible for XP.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A calling spell is not like a summoning spell, but closer to a teleport. There's a separate section on Calling spells in in the Magic chapter. Its duration is instantaneous and the creature appears in its normal state, not as a summoned creature, except that it's compelled to obey the caster.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The second clause of the spell begins, "If you choose to exact a longer <em>or more involved</em> form of service". Arguably casting a spell that has an XP cost is a more involved service even though it's within the 1 round per level duration, and therefore the caster must provide a fair trade.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The party are casting a large number of Lawful and Good spells. I think there would be alignment and religious consequences to this. The gods that govern solars might soon come calling on the party for service in return, much as a paladin is subject to the call of the gods. Note that the spell description references <em>lesser planar ally</em> which is exclusively a cleric spell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Starglim, post: 2117401, member: 17011"] If the creature is under control, it departs at the end of the spell. If not, it can stay as long as it pleases and still use its one-time return ticket when it wants to. The creature must leave when dismissed and is not entitled to a reward or other consideration. If it later decided anyway to use its own abilities to come after the summoner, that would be a separate encounter, not an effect of the spell, and would be eligible for XP. A calling spell is not like a summoning spell, but closer to a teleport. There's a separate section on Calling spells in in the Magic chapter. Its duration is instantaneous and the creature appears in its normal state, not as a summoned creature, except that it's compelled to obey the caster. The second clause of the spell begins, "If you choose to exact a longer [I]or more involved[/I] form of service". Arguably casting a spell that has an XP cost is a more involved service even though it's within the 1 round per level duration, and therefore the caster must provide a fair trade. The party are casting a large number of Lawful and Good spells. I think there would be alignment and religious consequences to this. The gods that govern solars might soon come calling on the party for service in return, much as a paladin is subject to the call of the gods. Note that the spell description references [I]lesser planar ally[/I] which is exclusively a cleric spell. [/QUOTE]
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