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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwistedBishop" data-source="post: 3160707" data-attributes="member: 12503">I would like to see some proof from your side.  All I've seen so far is a second mention of Okami (not a shooter), claims against Halo 2's play length (it's documented in reviews), and now the Conflict series?   I had never even tried these, and a quick glance at Gamespot shows why with such low scores.  That alone wouldn't disqualify them from this conversation, however the fact their "length", it would appear, is due to a poor save system certainly might.I can think of 10 shooters just off the top of my head that are 10 hour ones and from recent memory.  You've got 3 proven ones (Halo, RE4, HL2) and had to go back to years to sloppy PS2 games to find 4 more from the Conflict series?  And you still haven't equaled my numbers.  That's far from representative of the genre.This entire discussion is based around what reviewers (or developers) claim a game length is.</blockquote>