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<blockquote data-quote="roguerouge" data-source="post: 1191679" data-attributes="member: 13855">Which brings us back to one of the original questions I had. In light of recent postings, it might be rephrased as: &quot;What are effective uses of geas to force someone to fetch a Pepsi in such a manner that does not end with your death.&quot;I agree with the poster on their reading of geas. The recipient must follow the instructions and receives penalties only if prevented from following the instruction by another. The only thing that balances this no save spell is the cunning target standard, who imprisons the caster to follow the instruction to keep the caster safe.The appeal for the player and the dm with this spell seems to me to be that it starts a battle of wits: can you outsmart the other while still remaining true to the letter of the instructions vs. can you craft an airtight set of instructions.What prompted me to post a question on this was the fact that in a recent game, my enchanter geased an opponent, who found a loophole, and thus geased the PC back. Thus began the battle of wits.... As I am inherently at a disadvantage in such battles, both as a player and as a DM, I posted this question!roguerouge</blockquote>

[QUOTE="roguerouge, post: 1191679, member: 13855"] Which brings us back to one of the original questions I had. In light of recent postings, it might be rephrased as: "What are effective uses of geas to force someone to fetch a Pepsi in such a manner that does not end with your death." I agree with the poster on their reading of geas. The recipient must follow the instructions and receives penalties only if prevented from following the instruction by another. The only thing that balances this no save spell is the cunning target standard, who imprisons the caster to follow the instruction to keep the caster safe. The appeal for the player and the dm with this spell seems to me to be that it starts a battle of wits: can you outsmart the other while still remaining true to the letter of the instructions vs. can you craft an airtight set of instructions. What prompted me to post a question on this was the fact that in a recent game, my enchanter geased an opponent, who found a loophole, and thus geased the PC back. Thus began the battle of wits.... As I am inherently at a disadvantage in such battles, both as a player and as a DM, I posted this question! roguerouge [/QUOTE]

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