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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 9893438" data-attributes="member: 7026617">I'm going to moan about something that will not initially seem to relate to this, but very much does.I'm a big fan of 50's SF movies; I'm not quite obsessive about them, but pretty close.  Now, a lot of 50's movie SF is junk.  And a lot more carries the baggage that older films always do to a modern viewer, which is to say they carry social assumptions of their time, and also do stylistic things that have generally fallen out of favor.  But some are, when viewed the right way still excellent movies in many ways.  I try to curate what I show people to the higher quality cases, because I can't expect them to have my love for older style things that are just going to look dumb to most modern viewers.  And mostly I say away from the low-hanging fruit of the original versions of The Day the Earth Stood Still or "Invasion of the Body Snatchers."  One of my favorites, and one I still think can be rewarding to a modern viewer is--*Them!"  Yes, the one with the giant ants.Now I could get into why, yes, you need to get yourself around the limits of SFX technology (even modern practical effects could probably do a better version of the ants, because, well, its' 70 years), and the above mentioned social issues in spots, but its still a tight, often suspenseful (especially in the first third), and sometime atmospheric movie that can show some of the benefits of working with black-and-white.But even, maybe especially among modern SF fans I'll often get, and have to clamp my jaw against "But its so derivative!"No, most likely everything you are thinking of derived either directly or indirectly from it.  But there's usually no point in saying that.Its the curse of what happens when what was once an orignal or semi-original concept has had the world move on.</blockquote>

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