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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 7783229" data-attributes="member: 18182"><p>Sorry, my word choice was awful and I was being quick and insensitive.</p><p></p><p>I do think that if you find a piece of art, like a TV show, upsetting or triggering for any reason, that's of course fine and shouldn't be criticized. Hell, if you just plain don't like an expression of art, for whatever reason, that's fine too. But I think a lot of us confuse our personal reactions to a TV show (or movie, or book, or whatever) with it's objective qualities, it being "crap" or "amazing". Of course, the quality of artistic expression is subjective (even though you can make technical criticisms), but an individual not caring for something, or finding it triggering, does not make it a bad piece of art. A lot of folks, both geeks and mundanes, find the show entertaining, hilarious, and of excellent quality.</p><p></p><p>I'll respect someone's opinion if they state, "I don't like that show because . . . ." even if I don't feel that way about it. I don't have a lot of respect for opinions that label popular art as objectively bad because they don't personally care for it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, as long as you don't try and place your trauma above others traumas, you shouldn't have much to worry about. It's what you have experienced, it's your trauma. I am also cis-het-white-WASPY-suburban-middle-class and all of that, and I know that many others have suffered worse than I have or can even really truly understand. But that doesn't lessen the impact my trauma has had on me. I will never tell myself, or let someone else tell me, that my trauma is less important or trivial, because others have gone through worse. There's always somebody who's gone through worse. I certainly try to empathize and express compassion for anyone who has suffered, regardless of the source or degree of it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree that Jeopardy, The Price is Right, and Scooby Doo are amazing shows! They have lasted as long as they have because millions find them entertaining. I personally don't care for The Price is Right (even though I love it's current host, Drew Carey), but I wouldn't throw shade at it and try to convince the world it's crap just because it isn't my cup of tea. I do enjoy Jeopardy from time to time though, and Scooby Doo is classic stuff man!</p><p></p><p>Sure, you can not like something for whatever reason, and even have legit quality criticisms of it as well, but to claim a show is bad despite it being massively successful and loved by millions is . . . . self-centered, in my opinion. It's not that nothing can be bad, or that art's quality is a democratic voting process, but taking subjective judgement of quality and expressing them as objective is just . . . well, we probably won't convince each other of our opinions, and that's okay too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 7783229, member: 18182"] Sorry, my word choice was awful and I was being quick and insensitive. I do think that if you find a piece of art, like a TV show, upsetting or triggering for any reason, that's of course fine and shouldn't be criticized. Hell, if you just plain don't like an expression of art, for whatever reason, that's fine too. But I think a lot of us confuse our personal reactions to a TV show (or movie, or book, or whatever) with it's objective qualities, it being "crap" or "amazing". Of course, the quality of artistic expression is subjective (even though you can make technical criticisms), but an individual not caring for something, or finding it triggering, does not make it a bad piece of art. A lot of folks, both geeks and mundanes, find the show entertaining, hilarious, and of excellent quality. I'll respect someone's opinion if they state, "I don't like that show because . . . ." even if I don't feel that way about it. I don't have a lot of respect for opinions that label popular art as objectively bad because they don't personally care for it. Well, as long as you don't try and place your trauma above others traumas, you shouldn't have much to worry about. It's what you have experienced, it's your trauma. I am also cis-het-white-WASPY-suburban-middle-class and all of that, and I know that many others have suffered worse than I have or can even really truly understand. But that doesn't lessen the impact my trauma has had on me. I will never tell myself, or let someone else tell me, that my trauma is less important or trivial, because others have gone through worse. There's always somebody who's gone through worse. I certainly try to empathize and express compassion for anyone who has suffered, regardless of the source or degree of it. I agree that Jeopardy, The Price is Right, and Scooby Doo are amazing shows! They have lasted as long as they have because millions find them entertaining. I personally don't care for The Price is Right (even though I love it's current host, Drew Carey), but I wouldn't throw shade at it and try to convince the world it's crap just because it isn't my cup of tea. I do enjoy Jeopardy from time to time though, and Scooby Doo is classic stuff man! Sure, you can not like something for whatever reason, and even have legit quality criticisms of it as well, but to claim a show is bad despite it being massively successful and loved by millions is . . . . self-centered, in my opinion. It's not that nothing can be bad, or that art's quality is a democratic voting process, but taking subjective judgement of quality and expressing them as objective is just . . . well, we probably won't convince each other of our opinions, and that's okay too. [/QUOTE]
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