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<blockquote data-quote="smootrk" data-source="post: 3211323" data-attributes="member: 28583"><p>Thanks for the feedback. I will address your points:</p><p></p><p>Powerlevel - not sure I agree that it is more powerful than standard bards. reduced hd, reduced combat skill; both to the level of wizards, yet spell power still only on the bard scale. Weapons and armor are limited as well (but debatable, as I treat those Kimonos essentially as armor). I'll wait for a few more opinions on this.</p><p></p><p>Spell List - I originally wanted to create an all new list with a decidedly Asian Bard feel, but after trying to work through the PHB & Spell Compendium - it ended up being essentially the same as normal bards with a couple of extra spells thrown in. So, for brevity, and for ease of maintaining spell lists for players & dms alike, I opted for straight bard spell list. For my own campaign I would probably prefer a unique list - much like you suggest.</p><p></p><p>Skills - I can see your suggested changes for Heal, but Use Device was specifically chosen so that the utility aspect of normal bards was maintained in this Asian counterpart. Craft (poison) is already available from the craft list (as is alchemy). If you mean Poison use like Assasins, remember that the class is not designed to be some sort of covert spy primarily (but many of their skills do support such). Now, a Geisha/Ninja or Geshia/Assassin multiclasses would quickly grant this aspect- and is a very potent combination, as I see it. Poison use (the class ability) is not IMO very aprapo for a professional entertainer.</p><p></p><p>Alignment - Generally I prefer classes without any alignment restrictions, but in this case the strict ettiquette, ritual performance, tea ceremonies, court behavior, etc. all scream 'strict organized behavior' to me. Originally I wrote that the class must be Lawful (like monks), but opted for a little more flexibility (non-chaotic instead). I tried to keep any penalties for a change mechanically minimal (just loss of advancement - not loss of ability). I'll see what some others think before making changes here.</p><p></p><p>Lore - I struggled with reconciling these aspects, trying to think of some mechanic that combined the two separate aspects. I see Bard Knowledge as integral from the study of History, Epics, Poetry, Song, etc., yet I also see some function of the Geisha being around and hearing nice tidbits of 'private' info here and there (gossip). I am flexible to changing this whole idea around if I can find some way of describing the effects of both.</p><p></p><p>Again thanks for the feedback. It helps to see how others view it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smootrk, post: 3211323, member: 28583"] Thanks for the feedback. I will address your points: Powerlevel - not sure I agree that it is more powerful than standard bards. reduced hd, reduced combat skill; both to the level of wizards, yet spell power still only on the bard scale. Weapons and armor are limited as well (but debatable, as I treat those Kimonos essentially as armor). I'll wait for a few more opinions on this. Spell List - I originally wanted to create an all new list with a decidedly Asian Bard feel, but after trying to work through the PHB & Spell Compendium - it ended up being essentially the same as normal bards with a couple of extra spells thrown in. So, for brevity, and for ease of maintaining spell lists for players & dms alike, I opted for straight bard spell list. For my own campaign I would probably prefer a unique list - much like you suggest. Skills - I can see your suggested changes for Heal, but Use Device was specifically chosen so that the utility aspect of normal bards was maintained in this Asian counterpart. Craft (poison) is already available from the craft list (as is alchemy). If you mean Poison use like Assasins, remember that the class is not designed to be some sort of covert spy primarily (but many of their skills do support such). Now, a Geisha/Ninja or Geshia/Assassin multiclasses would quickly grant this aspect- and is a very potent combination, as I see it. Poison use (the class ability) is not IMO very aprapo for a professional entertainer. Alignment - Generally I prefer classes without any alignment restrictions, but in this case the strict ettiquette, ritual performance, tea ceremonies, court behavior, etc. all scream 'strict organized behavior' to me. Originally I wrote that the class must be Lawful (like monks), but opted for a little more flexibility (non-chaotic instead). I tried to keep any penalties for a change mechanically minimal (just loss of advancement - not loss of ability). I'll see what some others think before making changes here. Lore - I struggled with reconciling these aspects, trying to think of some mechanic that combined the two separate aspects. I see Bard Knowledge as integral from the study of History, Epics, Poetry, Song, etc., yet I also see some function of the Geisha being around and hearing nice tidbits of 'private' info here and there (gossip). I am flexible to changing this whole idea around if I can find some way of describing the effects of both. Again thanks for the feedback. It helps to see how others view it. [/QUOTE]
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