Gem dragons?

[Mouseferatu]

Okay, I could have sworn these guys were updated to 3.5/the XPH. But the only place I'm finding them is MMII, and that's way before the revision. Am I just smoking something I shouldn't?

(The irony here is, I don't even much care for the gem dragons. I just need to look them over for an idea I'm working on.)

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

The only revised info on the Gem Dragons that I know of is in that little 3.5 update document. I'd hoped there would be something in Draconomicon on them, but there was nothing...

 

[Gez]

As far as I know, they have been published only in the MM2 and, before, in the Psi handbook web enhancement. That's why I hoped they would be updated in the EPH web enhancement, but they didn't.

 

[diaglo]

As far as I know, they have been published only in the MM2 and, before, in the Psi handbook web enhancement. That's why I hoped they would be updated in the EPH web enhancement, but they didn't.

stretch back a little... gem dragons existed in Dragon Magazine back in the 1edADnD days too.

 

[MrFilthyIke]

Yeah, Gem Dragons have had a number of supporting roles in D&D, but no official 3.5 treatment. Maybe this is a job for Dragon's new Creature Catalogue section.

 

[JoeGKushner]

stretch back a little... gem dragons existed in Dragon Magazine back in the 1edADnD days too.

I believe he was talking about for the new edition of the game.

Heck, I remember that Ruby Dragon... what was his name? Salidor or something?

I wish that there was an article that updated all the dragon rulers... I remember the one gray dragon and steel dragon that fougth each other.

The ferrous dragons were nice too..

Argh... further derailing of the thread...

 

[Echohawk]

Gez is correct that the gem dragons haven't received a 3.5 print update. Howver, if you use E-Tools or PCGen, then the 3.5 dataset for the MMII incorporates the updates from the conversion manual, and will give you pretty solid 3.5 gem dragons.

JGK, I think you're thinking of Rahab (Grey) and Ahi (Steel) from Dragon #62. And if you're still looking for them, you can find the (3.0) stats for Sardior, Master of the Gem Dragons here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20030124a

 

[Psion]

JGK, I think you're thinking of Rahab (Grey) and Ahi (Steel) from Dragon #62.

Actually, he's not. The ferrous dragons were an article in the 2e era, in Dragon #170. They had species like iron, tungsten, chromium, and nickel. The alignments were all over the map.

The Inzeladun hosted site had some conversions:
http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/hosted/adilbrand/inzeladun/monsters/dragons/dragonsferrous.htm

 

[JoeGKushner]

Actually, it was both.

The first reference was to the Ruby Dragon. Thanks for the link!

The second was to the two dagons who fought one another. Great stuff there and I wish we had more 'unique' dragons like them and bahamut/tiamat before they became gods.

The third is indeed the ferrous dragons but I swore that they too had a 'bahamut' style leader.

 

[Psion]

The third is indeed the ferrous dragons but I swore that they too had a 'bahamut' style leader.

They did, though the name escapes me.