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<blockquote data-quote="wlmartin" data-source="post: 5619668" data-attributes="member: 6679380"><p>I know! - Unfortunately that is what you get when you have a Tabletop RPG Company owned by a TCG Company. WotC appreciate the massive value there is in marketing products like you are undertaking some sort of lucky dip at the fair. They know that people are like drug addicts, they crack open a booster pack and see the non-randoms, see that they didn't get the Orc Skirmisher they want and will go back into the shop to buy another booster and another booster. I mean they even "call" them boosters as if it is some kind of Collectable. Sure, people collect them but MOST people that buy Mini's do it to get the ones they want and use them, not to collect 1 of each type!!!!!</p><p></p><p></p><p>Want to hear something weird. In the UK we have a law that protects consumers and says that you are free to open (most, excluding DVDs and CDs) products to test them out... like buying a hairdryer.. if it didnt blow as well you could take it back for an exchange or refund.</p><p></p><p>So, all i need now is to find a Gaming Shop in the UK that has enough stock of minis for me to go in there and just crack open as many as I want and keep cycling the refund until I found boosters with the minis I wanted. Unfortunately there are practicaly no gaming shops any more and the only real chain is Games Workshop which is 100% Warhammer anyways.</p><p></p><p>... besides, since the Gaming Shop would have to write it off as a loss of doing business in our crazy "Try-It-To-See-If-You-Like-It" consumer country, I couldn't do that to any Gaming Shop... A faceless corporate supermarket perhaps but not a Gaming Shop.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>WotC are a business at the end of the day and as much as we dislike their attitude with a lot of the ways they do business, they are always going to be struggling against the WoW's of this world not to mention other Wargames and such so their only real choice is to make as much money out of us that they can and since the downside is them killing the D&D brand off - its a tax I think a lot of us would be eager to pay.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Some people are cynical about WotC. They believe that the concept of Minions was designed to sell more Mini's... Whilst I don't think they are going to put up a sign that says "Buy less Mini's, just use Tokens" - I really don't think that they invented core rules just to make money. If that was the case I am sure they would have found a lot more ways to screw with us to get our money out.</p><p></p><p>I do dislike the direction WotC is going, the tentacles of Hasbro and Magic : The Gathering are seen at every turn but they are stuck at present... they have stopped selling Mini's, are releasing less and less books so they really need to come up with a new idea to make money from 4e, otherwise we could see them become one of the latest casualties of the global recession.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wlmartin, post: 5619668, member: 6679380"] I know! - Unfortunately that is what you get when you have a Tabletop RPG Company owned by a TCG Company. WotC appreciate the massive value there is in marketing products like you are undertaking some sort of lucky dip at the fair. They know that people are like drug addicts, they crack open a booster pack and see the non-randoms, see that they didn't get the Orc Skirmisher they want and will go back into the shop to buy another booster and another booster. I mean they even "call" them boosters as if it is some kind of Collectable. Sure, people collect them but MOST people that buy Mini's do it to get the ones they want and use them, not to collect 1 of each type!!!!! Want to hear something weird. In the UK we have a law that protects consumers and says that you are free to open (most, excluding DVDs and CDs) products to test them out... like buying a hairdryer.. if it didnt blow as well you could take it back for an exchange or refund. So, all i need now is to find a Gaming Shop in the UK that has enough stock of minis for me to go in there and just crack open as many as I want and keep cycling the refund until I found boosters with the minis I wanted. Unfortunately there are practicaly no gaming shops any more and the only real chain is Games Workshop which is 100% Warhammer anyways. ... besides, since the Gaming Shop would have to write it off as a loss of doing business in our crazy "Try-It-To-See-If-You-Like-It" consumer country, I couldn't do that to any Gaming Shop... A faceless corporate supermarket perhaps but not a Gaming Shop. WotC are a business at the end of the day and as much as we dislike their attitude with a lot of the ways they do business, they are always going to be struggling against the WoW's of this world not to mention other Wargames and such so their only real choice is to make as much money out of us that they can and since the downside is them killing the D&D brand off - its a tax I think a lot of us would be eager to pay. Some people are cynical about WotC. They believe that the concept of Minions was designed to sell more Mini's... Whilst I don't think they are going to put up a sign that says "Buy less Mini's, just use Tokens" - I really don't think that they invented core rules just to make money. If that was the case I am sure they would have found a lot more ways to screw with us to get our money out. I do dislike the direction WotC is going, the tentacles of Hasbro and Magic : The Gathering are seen at every turn but they are stuck at present... they have stopped selling Mini's, are releasing less and less books so they really need to come up with a new idea to make money from 4e, otherwise we could see them become one of the latest casualties of the global recession. [/QUOTE]
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