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<blockquote data-quote="Raikun" data-source="post: 5655165" data-attributes="member: 95943"><p>Kind of an aside, just to try and clarify my stance because I can see a semantics issue brewing hehe...I think we're using 2 different definitions of "complex".</p><p></p><p>One definition is "having many interconnected parts", which of course adding more parts makes it more complex.</p><p></p><p>Another definition is "so complicated and intricate that it's hard to understand or deal with".</p><p></p><p>And it's the latter definition that I feel gets invoked when it's tied to claims that it adds to the learning curve, etc.</p><p></p><p>Essentials offers a very simple, straightforward, and easy way to get into the game, and even for old timers, offers an easier, more streamlined game. (I wasn't exaggerating earlier when I said that switching over half the group to E-characters sped up our game so much that we can go through 5-6 encounters per session compared to the 3 that we used to struggle to get through).</p><p></p><p>So, my opinion is that the increased complexity in character generation (more interconnected parts), gets trumped by the simplicity of actual gameplay that it offers. (Ease of understanding).</p><p></p><p>I hope that made sense. =)</p><p></p><p>But yeah, the former definition of complexity (number of parts) really has such limited effect on the actual gameplay as to be irrelevant, and the definition of complexity that actually does describe gameplay trends in the opposite direction. (Less complex overall.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raikun, post: 5655165, member: 95943"] Kind of an aside, just to try and clarify my stance because I can see a semantics issue brewing hehe...I think we're using 2 different definitions of "complex". One definition is "having many interconnected parts", which of course adding more parts makes it more complex. Another definition is "so complicated and intricate that it's hard to understand or deal with". And it's the latter definition that I feel gets invoked when it's tied to claims that it adds to the learning curve, etc. Essentials offers a very simple, straightforward, and easy way to get into the game, and even for old timers, offers an easier, more streamlined game. (I wasn't exaggerating earlier when I said that switching over half the group to E-characters sped up our game so much that we can go through 5-6 encounters per session compared to the 3 that we used to struggle to get through). So, my opinion is that the increased complexity in character generation (more interconnected parts), gets trumped by the simplicity of actual gameplay that it offers. (Ease of understanding). I hope that made sense. =) But yeah, the former definition of complexity (number of parts) really has such limited effect on the actual gameplay as to be irrelevant, and the definition of complexity that actually does describe gameplay trends in the opposite direction. (Less complex overall.) [/QUOTE]
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