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<blockquote data-quote="John Morrow" data-source="post: 1926133" data-attributes="member: 27012"><p>Actually, with respect to modern real world humans and strenth, that's not true. The difference would likely be 3-4 points of strength in D&D 3.X. Based on weightlifting world records and US military studies concerning strength capabilities, on average and at the maximum, women are about 3/4ths (70%) as strong as men in their lower body and a bit better than half (55%-60%) as strong as men in their upper body. As I pointed out earlier, this is because of (A) size differences and (B) body fat percentages.</p><p></p><p>One military study showed that a 24 week, 90 minute a day training program could bring women up to about 90% of the capability of men not given the same special training. Assuming that the hard life of a pseudo-Medieval D&D setting was the equivalent of this special training and ignoring the fact that men weren't given the special training though would probably have a rough life, too, that's still a full single point in D&D terms. And that's at the average, not at the maximum. The maximum is likely still reflected in those world records.</p><p></p><p>It's possible, however, to assume that other races have far less sex dimorphism than humans. One theory that I've read is that dimorphism is related to reproductive strategies. The more competative the males are for mates, the more dimorphism you get. In a monogamous society where nearly all males get the opportunity to find a mate without having to beat up another male, you could have no dimorphism. Humans, in the big scheme of things, have very little dimorphism (compare, for example, Gorillas).</p><p></p><p>Of course it's also impossible to just ignore all of this entirely and assume that dimorphism simply doesn't exist in your fantasy world. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Morrow, post: 1926133, member: 27012"] Actually, with respect to modern real world humans and strenth, that's not true. The difference would likely be 3-4 points of strength in D&D 3.X. Based on weightlifting world records and US military studies concerning strength capabilities, on average and at the maximum, women are about 3/4ths (70%) as strong as men in their lower body and a bit better than half (55%-60%) as strong as men in their upper body. As I pointed out earlier, this is because of (A) size differences and (B) body fat percentages. One military study showed that a 24 week, 90 minute a day training program could bring women up to about 90% of the capability of men not given the same special training. Assuming that the hard life of a pseudo-Medieval D&D setting was the equivalent of this special training and ignoring the fact that men weren't given the special training though would probably have a rough life, too, that's still a full single point in D&D terms. And that's at the average, not at the maximum. The maximum is likely still reflected in those world records. It's possible, however, to assume that other races have far less sex dimorphism than humans. One theory that I've read is that dimorphism is related to reproductive strategies. The more competative the males are for mates, the more dimorphism you get. In a monogamous society where nearly all males get the opportunity to find a mate without having to beat up another male, you could have no dimorphism. Humans, in the big scheme of things, have very little dimorphism (compare, for example, Gorillas). Of course it's also impossible to just ignore all of this entirely and assume that dimorphism simply doesn't exist in your fantasy world. :) [/QUOTE]
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