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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Strangemonkey" data-source="post: 1927673" data-attributes="member: 6533">An important point that, at least as far as I could tell was missing from this, is that the liberation of men from the household also has a significantly detrimental effect on the rate at which children live to productive adulthood.&nbsp; I would guess that in all but the most sheltered communities you'd have both genders trained in warfare and fighting since the chance of something coming after the homes is so great, but that on both there would be a strong encouragement to keep those skills at home.The bottom line is that any adventurer already represents a liberated type that the society in no way expects to care for children or behave in anything like a conventional or, honestly, productive manner.&nbsp; So the question simply becomes one of how such societies sponsor/select such types and how willing they are to incorporate women.&nbsp; Which for most societies that recognize leadership roles as exceptions to the pattern of society is a fairly open question.I should note that I sincerely doubt adventureres would be groomed for leadership except at the higher levels, but the idea of an exceptional caste does translate.On a side note:&nbsp; John Marrow you might want to check out the Spring 2004 issue of Foriegn Affairs Quarterly, it had a fantastic article on population bust. I remain unconvinved about how much of a problem that will be long term except that we will have a lot of ruined urban sprawl.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dr. Strangemonkey, post: 1927673, member: 6533"] An important point that, at least as far as I could tell was missing from this, is that the liberation of men from the household also has a significantly detrimental effect on the rate at which children live to productive adulthood. I would guess that in all but the most sheltered communities you'd have both genders trained in warfare and fighting since the chance of something coming after the homes is so great, but that on both there would be a strong encouragement to keep those skills at home. The bottom line is that any adventurer already represents a liberated type that the society in no way expects to care for children or behave in anything like a conventional or, honestly, productive manner. So the question simply becomes one of how such societies sponsor/select such types and how willing they are to incorporate women. Which for most societies that recognize leadership roles as exceptions to the pattern of society is a fairly open question. I should note that I sincerely doubt adventureres would be groomed for leadership except at the higher levels, but the idea of an exceptional caste does translate. On a side note: John Marrow you might want to check out the Spring 2004 issue of Foriegn Affairs Quarterly, it had a fantastic article on population bust. I remain unconvinved about how much of a problem that will be long term except that we will have a lot of ruined urban sprawl. [/QUOTE]

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