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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 1548062" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Countdown to threadnuke due to politics in 3...2...1....<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Seriously, it's largely a PC and Fantasy issue. AKAIK, there are a lot of male-only positions, historically, in fantasy, but they are represented in D&D through base classes that are more flexible than their roles (e.g.: the fighter and the paladin can represent a Knight of Valour, a very typically Male role). </p><p></p><p>Add to that the fact that the 'mythomale' has been, to a certain extent, pushed in the back to be PC. The 'mythomale' has been seen by a lot of women's power movements as being the root cause of the gender opression they see going on. So creating something that emulates it that has to be male (like making a Knight of Valour, Male-Only PrC), or something that relegates the female to a subservient role (It's a Housewife template!) would be looked down on, in general (not always -- the Book of Erotic Fantasy, if anyone, has probably pushed this limit).</p><p></p><p>Aside from the mythomale being the cause of gender opression in certain peoples' eyes, there's just less cool "must be male" archetypes in Fantasy literature.</p><p></p><p>For women, there are typical archetypes like witches, nymphs, earth mothers, civic totems, amazons, hyperactive ninja schoolgirls, and pure maidens. For men, there are basically a handful in comparison: Chivalric knight (base class), Wizened old man (base class), Heir of the Lineage (nothin' strong's been done with that yet), Eunuch (the OA thing), and maybe a Defender of some sort. Indeed, a lot of these are flexible depending on the gender (Joan of Arc was a female chivalric knight, arguably a witch is a female wizened old man, a pure maiden is a eunuch, and a civic totem is a defender). </p><p></p><p>So chalk it up to the following:</p><p></p><p>1 - There's less cool male-only archetypes (chalk it up to that feminine mystique?)</p><p>2 - Those that exist could be adopted by women with the same powers, but a different spin (so making them male-only would be exclusionary)</p><p>3 - Those that are cool, and that are all-male, may be seen as slightly un-PC: the aforementioned issue of being blamed for gender discrimination in earlier times.</p><p></p><p>That said, I thouroughly ignore this IMC -- even those female-only things could be done by a male (there's no reason female unicorns wouldn't like a particularly pure and innocent young cleric, ferinstance.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 1548062, member: 2067"] Countdown to threadnuke due to politics in 3...2...1....;) Seriously, it's largely a PC and Fantasy issue. AKAIK, there are a lot of male-only positions, historically, in fantasy, but they are represented in D&D through base classes that are more flexible than their roles (e.g.: the fighter and the paladin can represent a Knight of Valour, a very typically Male role). Add to that the fact that the 'mythomale' has been, to a certain extent, pushed in the back to be PC. The 'mythomale' has been seen by a lot of women's power movements as being the root cause of the gender opression they see going on. So creating something that emulates it that has to be male (like making a Knight of Valour, Male-Only PrC), or something that relegates the female to a subservient role (It's a Housewife template!) would be looked down on, in general (not always -- the Book of Erotic Fantasy, if anyone, has probably pushed this limit). Aside from the mythomale being the cause of gender opression in certain peoples' eyes, there's just less cool "must be male" archetypes in Fantasy literature. For women, there are typical archetypes like witches, nymphs, earth mothers, civic totems, amazons, hyperactive ninja schoolgirls, and pure maidens. For men, there are basically a handful in comparison: Chivalric knight (base class), Wizened old man (base class), Heir of the Lineage (nothin' strong's been done with that yet), Eunuch (the OA thing), and maybe a Defender of some sort. Indeed, a lot of these are flexible depending on the gender (Joan of Arc was a female chivalric knight, arguably a witch is a female wizened old man, a pure maiden is a eunuch, and a civic totem is a defender). So chalk it up to the following: 1 - There's less cool male-only archetypes (chalk it up to that feminine mystique?) 2 - Those that exist could be adopted by women with the same powers, but a different spin (so making them male-only would be exclusionary) 3 - Those that are cool, and that are all-male, may be seen as slightly un-PC: the aforementioned issue of being blamed for gender discrimination in earlier times. That said, I thouroughly ignore this IMC -- even those female-only things could be done by a male (there's no reason female unicorns wouldn't like a particularly pure and innocent young cleric, ferinstance.) [/QUOTE]
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