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<blockquote data-quote="Dark Jezter" data-source="post: 1549678" data-attributes="member: 1015"><p>Axl Rose, Andrew Dice Clay, and the late Sam Kinison all had their careers in their haydays in the 1980s and early-1990s, before victimology became such a widespread phenomenon. It would be interesting indeed to see how their attitudes would be tolerated in today's world. </p><p></p><p>Eminem is the most modern example you brought up, and he <em>did</em> take a lot of flak after a recording made in 1988 where he made unflattering remarks about black women became public a while back. He denounced his own statements and attributed it to the foolishness of youth, as well he should have. Interestingly enough, rappers Ice Cube and Ice-T have released numerous songs over the years where the lyrics promote violence against whites, mysogyny, and cop-killing. There have been no apologies issued for these songs, and both men are now Hollywood actors.</p><p></p><p>With all due respects, though, I'm going to bow out of this this part of the discussion because I think that we're getting too sidetracked from the topic of this thread (why female-only PrCs are so common while male-only PrCs are so rare), and continuing along this line will probably lead to a political discussion that will get the thread closed. But I must say good argument with bringing up Kinison, Clay, Rose, and Eminem. It really made me think about my rebuttal. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Another example would be the island of Evermeet, which is ruled by a queen and an all-female council of elves that the old 2e suppliment <em>Elves of Evermeet</em> described as being wiser and more enlightened than any male ruler could possibly be. This, combined with the "elves are superior to humans in every way" tone of the book soon resulted in me closing it in disgust and never caring to look in it again.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmmm, good point. The only human-only PrC I can think of right now is the Red Wizard, which requires the wizard to be a human from Thay.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dark Jezter, post: 1549678, member: 1015"] Axl Rose, Andrew Dice Clay, and the late Sam Kinison all had their careers in their haydays in the 1980s and early-1990s, before victimology became such a widespread phenomenon. It would be interesting indeed to see how their attitudes would be tolerated in today's world. Eminem is the most modern example you brought up, and he [i]did[/i] take a lot of flak after a recording made in 1988 where he made unflattering remarks about black women became public a while back. He denounced his own statements and attributed it to the foolishness of youth, as well he should have. Interestingly enough, rappers Ice Cube and Ice-T have released numerous songs over the years where the lyrics promote violence against whites, mysogyny, and cop-killing. There have been no apologies issued for these songs, and both men are now Hollywood actors. With all due respects, though, I'm going to bow out of this this part of the discussion because I think that we're getting too sidetracked from the topic of this thread (why female-only PrCs are so common while male-only PrCs are so rare), and continuing along this line will probably lead to a political discussion that will get the thread closed. But I must say good argument with bringing up Kinison, Clay, Rose, and Eminem. It really made me think about my rebuttal. :) Another example would be the island of Evermeet, which is ruled by a queen and an all-female council of elves that the old 2e suppliment [i]Elves of Evermeet[/i] described as being wiser and more enlightened than any male ruler could possibly be. This, combined with the "elves are superior to humans in every way" tone of the book soon resulted in me closing it in disgust and never caring to look in it again. Hmmm, good point. The only human-only PrC I can think of right now is the Red Wizard, which requires the wizard to be a human from Thay. [/QUOTE]
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