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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5550200" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Let me expound on this further, because I want it to be absolutely clear what I'm saying here.</p><p></p><p>The people of Jamaica dominate international sprinting events in a way that is far out sized with their population. </p><p></p><p>I happened to grow up in Jamaica. So I know what I speak of here, and the people of Jamaica value running far more than Americans do. So, it is a very open question as to whether the 1% or 3% edge that they have over some other racial/cultural group is the result of the fact that they have a better set of genes for sprinting than some other group, or the fact that they continually make and encourage their youths to sprint and run from a very young age and bestow such social respect on those that are fast. </p><p></p><p>What's realistic here? Nature or nurture or some combination of the two? And is the edge here something that easily translates to your system? Unlike my system, in your system speed probably isn't a skill so you probably have even less tools for addressing racial/cultural diversity in speed than I do. What a system implements as realistic is often as much a matter of the limitations of the system as it is any concerns about what might be realistic. It might be realistic, but if the modifiers are tiny compared to the complexity that they create, why bother?</p><p></p><p>However, physical differences and even mental differences between the sexes are well established as being strongly rooted in genes rather than cultural environment and are far larger and more easily measured than the sort of differences behind even false sterotypes like "White men can't jump." or others of the sort I won't repeat here simply because I don't want to promote additional offensive statements. Those statements are offensive because they are false/unreflective, and not because its offensive to comtemplate that human genetic diversity might have some impact on relative ability.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5550200, member: 4937"] Let me expound on this further, because I want it to be absolutely clear what I'm saying here. The people of Jamaica dominate international sprinting events in a way that is far out sized with their population. I happened to grow up in Jamaica. So I know what I speak of here, and the people of Jamaica value running far more than Americans do. So, it is a very open question as to whether the 1% or 3% edge that they have over some other racial/cultural group is the result of the fact that they have a better set of genes for sprinting than some other group, or the fact that they continually make and encourage their youths to sprint and run from a very young age and bestow such social respect on those that are fast. What's realistic here? Nature or nurture or some combination of the two? And is the edge here something that easily translates to your system? Unlike my system, in your system speed probably isn't a skill so you probably have even less tools for addressing racial/cultural diversity in speed than I do. What a system implements as realistic is often as much a matter of the limitations of the system as it is any concerns about what might be realistic. It might be realistic, but if the modifiers are tiny compared to the complexity that they create, why bother? However, physical differences and even mental differences between the sexes are well established as being strongly rooted in genes rather than cultural environment and are far larger and more easily measured than the sort of differences behind even false sterotypes like "White men can't jump." or others of the sort I won't repeat here simply because I don't want to promote additional offensive statements. Those statements are offensive because they are false/unreflective, and not because its offensive to comtemplate that human genetic diversity might have some impact on relative ability. [/QUOTE]
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