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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NewJeffCT" data-source="post: 5554950" data-attributes="member: 10784">I agree that men are physically stronger, both on average, and at elite/athletic levels.  I used to cover high school/college athletics back in the 90s on a part-time basis, and I know that's true from my perspective.However, I think most of the kick butt women from the past 15-20 years in the media are that way because they have some special/extraordinary power, or because they have undergone extraordinary training.Buffy Summers was The Slayer, granted extraordinary strength to help her fight vampires.Max from Dark Angel was a genetically enhanced womanSarah Connor from Terminator 2 was muscular, but I don't recall her being extraordinarily strong in the movie (though, it's been years since I've seen the movie).  I think she overpowered her shrink - but, I think my 8 year old daughter might be able to overpower that guy, too.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />The two women from Crouching Tiger had some sort of special power as well...I think a lot of the other women, though, are exceptional because of extraordinary martial training, not exceptional strength - Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft or Salt (superstar vs mooks); Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow in Iron Man 2 (again, superstar vs a bunch of mooks); Uma Thurman from the Kill Bill movies - epic level swordswoman with a super sword against a bunch of mooks.  (Though, that one did take it to the extreme.)I'm sure there are plenty of examples of it going over the top, but I do think most cases are kick-ass women who kick ass because of a super power and/or super training.</blockquote>

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