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<blockquote data-quote="RedTonic" data-source="post: 5555587" data-attributes="member: 98994"><p>I disagree with the notion that RPGs, in general, should <em>enforce</em> any stat-based difference between genders in <em>human</em> characters. It's limiting for the optimizers out there, annoying to the politico/anthro/sociological types out there, and not of especial mathematical/statistical interest despite the obsession of several posters with bringing up means, medians, and modes of size and lifting power. Honestly, though, if I HAD to assess stats, I'd simply give male humans a slight bonus to Str and female humans a slight bonus to Con.</p><p></p><p>Why? Because in the end, I will probably outlive all of the male posters in this thread, barring accident or foul play. I mean, if I'm murdered, it will probably be by a male romantic partner or friend, but hey, nobody's assessing a Wis penalty on any of the guys in this topic to mimic the statistical data on <em>murderers</em>, sufferers of schizophrenia, and <em>violent, career criminals</em>. </p><p></p><p>Though I think the accusations, outright and veiled, of sexism and racism are indicative of possible Cha penalties, as someone previously mentioned, because insults aren't a good way of bringing someone around to your point of view (even just to agree to disagree). It's certainly disrespectful.</p><p></p><p>If anything, the physical differences between the sexes are of diminishing importance in the developing and developed worlds. I disagree with the notion that men are somehow inherently better at higher levels of theoretical mathematics as well; I think that's mainly a result of self-selection and social pressures. As a girl, I was explicitly and implicitly pressured <em>not</em> to excel in mathematics, and I'm not even 25 years old yet. If we accept that the "lot" of women has improved over time (define that as you will), and hence we're more equal in society than ever before, the influence on women to really not bother with mathematics must have been pretty rough. That is also putting aside that women haven't always been encouraged to even become literate at the most basic level, and that women everywhere still aren't. We aren't discussing assessing anyone a penalty to Int or Appraisal, though.</p><p></p><p>If intelligence and physical measures aren't of great importance, then the difference must be psychological (let's just put aside matters of the soul). Quantifying such issues is difficult in a meaningful and concise way fit for gaming. The best and most satisfying method, in my opinion, and as has been expressed in this topic already, is to let the differences between the sexes, as well as the similarities, shine through in role play.</p><p></p><p>And honestly, if you don't care about roleplaying, why do you care about assigning differences to men versus women?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RedTonic, post: 5555587, member: 98994"] I disagree with the notion that RPGs, in general, should [i]enforce[/i] any stat-based difference between genders in [i]human[/i] characters. It's limiting for the optimizers out there, annoying to the politico/anthro/sociological types out there, and not of especial mathematical/statistical interest despite the obsession of several posters with bringing up means, medians, and modes of size and lifting power. Honestly, though, if I HAD to assess stats, I'd simply give male humans a slight bonus to Str and female humans a slight bonus to Con. Why? Because in the end, I will probably outlive all of the male posters in this thread, barring accident or foul play. I mean, if I'm murdered, it will probably be by a male romantic partner or friend, but hey, nobody's assessing a Wis penalty on any of the guys in this topic to mimic the statistical data on [i]murderers[/i], sufferers of schizophrenia, and [i]violent, career criminals[/i]. Though I think the accusations, outright and veiled, of sexism and racism are indicative of possible Cha penalties, as someone previously mentioned, because insults aren't a good way of bringing someone around to your point of view (even just to agree to disagree). It's certainly disrespectful. If anything, the physical differences between the sexes are of diminishing importance in the developing and developed worlds. I disagree with the notion that men are somehow inherently better at higher levels of theoretical mathematics as well; I think that's mainly a result of self-selection and social pressures. As a girl, I was explicitly and implicitly pressured [i]not[/i] to excel in mathematics, and I'm not even 25 years old yet. If we accept that the "lot" of women has improved over time (define that as you will), and hence we're more equal in society than ever before, the influence on women to really not bother with mathematics must have been pretty rough. That is also putting aside that women haven't always been encouraged to even become literate at the most basic level, and that women everywhere still aren't. We aren't discussing assessing anyone a penalty to Int or Appraisal, though. If intelligence and physical measures aren't of great importance, then the difference must be psychological (let's just put aside matters of the soul). Quantifying such issues is difficult in a meaningful and concise way fit for gaming. The best and most satisfying method, in my opinion, and as has been expressed in this topic already, is to let the differences between the sexes, as well as the similarities, shine through in role play. And honestly, if you don't care about roleplaying, why do you care about assigning differences to men versus women? [/QUOTE]
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