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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 5556304" data-attributes="member: 6668292">You know, if you did this, and gave women a free feat, I doubt people would complain about differences in gender. Give men something like the Athletic feat, and give women something the Negotiator feat (Diplomacy / Sense Motive), or Endurance. Both free feats, based on the gender you choose at character creation. You can always spend a feat to pick up the other one.Out of curiosity, compared to statistical differences, how many people would object to this?I wish they were around when the damn jalapenos jar wouldn't open recently.Actually, I think you'd have to compare it to the other male PC equivalent. I mean, suppose there's a rule in place that gives women a -2 to Strength. If both a female and a male warrior were rolled up, and they both had a natural 18 in Strength, the female would have a 16, and the male would have an 18.Now, compare those two warriors to the slightly above average strength NPCs in this scenario (I'm guessing it's around 12? 13?). I think that's the comparison that should be at play.I'm not saying that I think the penalty is just or unjust, I'm merely saying that I think the comparison should be amongst PCs. Just my two cents.Let me begin by saying that I definitely respect your opinion and feelings in this matter. I'm not intending to discount what you say by my response.However, I just cannot reconcile that a mentally healthy person would feel violently threatened (even abstractly) by a man when he boasts, much less during an honest discussion on the matter of physical capabilities. I mean, maybe if a man were to attempt to intimidate her, I'd understand. I'm sure if Brock Lesnar walked up to me and tried to physically intimidate me, I'd feel threatened (I don't care what certain people think, the man is a beast).I just don't see how someone mentally healthy, with a high respect for oneself, would feel threatened by male posturing (again, much less honest discussion). I know I don't feel threatened by other people when they boast about their strengths. In fact, my friends regularly try to prove me wrong, often actively pushing when they perceived I've made a mistake. Maybe it's because I'm combative when them in dialogue (much more so than on this board!), and they want to one-up me? I don't know.Perhaps that's what you were going for in your post (that I admittedly only drew parts from, seeing as my own post was already so long)? That women have low self respect in this area because of male oppression? Even if that is the case, I don't see how people have an honest discussion about comparative strength between the sexes could really logically feel violently threatened, even abstractly, by the men in those discussions.But, feelings are not logical, I suppose. Which is, usually, a pretty refreshing thing about them, past a certain point in my life. At any rate, I'm not sure where I'm heading with this. I'm just honestly trying to understand. I suppose that's why I like role playing, to some degree. Let's me get in there, and feel closer to these things I wouldn't normally empathize with (they usually don't come up... don't judge me!).So... yeah. Um. Play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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