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<blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 5556328" data-attributes="member: 15538"><p>IMO, when you make that comparison, there absolutely should not be a difference. If the woman is more unusual for the sake of having an 18 Str, then she is more unusual. So be it. But I can't fathom how the game is made better by making the <em>player</em> accept a 16 Strength in order to play the character. </p><p></p><p>As I said before, there is a difference, just not as huge a difference, I believe, as some may imagine. The simple likelihood of choosing to make a strong male fighter compared to a female one probably outpaces, by an order of magnitude, any mechanical penalties you could put in place to create a similar shift in behavior. In other words, any norming of men versus women is probably not only handled, but exaggerated, by the process of character creation itself.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's something to work on. It's like the kid at the birthday party who keeps making a big deal about how their parents rented ponies for the party. Sure, they're not a bad kid; they probably don't even recognize how others will respond. But a mentally healthy individual can probably detect that this child's relationship with wealth is different than that of other children at the party. I think a mentally healthy person not only notices, but responds to, the sense that another person is trying to assert their superiority.</p><p></p><p>When the message is, "You are weaker than a man. A man would destroy you in physical combat," the question becomes, why is this message being broadcast? I understand the words. What is the significance?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What if you lived in a world where a couple of times a week, Brock Lesnar wolf-whistled at you on the way home from work?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As exhibits A and B, I present WWI and WWII.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course. Once you change the context, the meaning is different. We are talking about context.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>More to the point, even if they have high self-respect, they have a negative self-<em>concept</em> because their daily reality requires them to battle negative stereotypes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How would you being a Mexican sitting in a room mostly full of white people, talking honestly and abstractly about the problem of illegal immigration? Would it make a difference if your mother had gotten her hands hit with a ruler when she was a child for speaking her native Spanish at school? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's a potentially very interesting and worthwhile journey. The first thing to realize is that many of the things that are most relevant to women, are invisible to men.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pawsplay, post: 5556328, member: 15538"] IMO, when you make that comparison, there absolutely should not be a difference. If the woman is more unusual for the sake of having an 18 Str, then she is more unusual. So be it. But I can't fathom how the game is made better by making the [i]player[/i] accept a 16 Strength in order to play the character. As I said before, there is a difference, just not as huge a difference, I believe, as some may imagine. The simple likelihood of choosing to make a strong male fighter compared to a female one probably outpaces, by an order of magnitude, any mechanical penalties you could put in place to create a similar shift in behavior. In other words, any norming of men versus women is probably not only handled, but exaggerated, by the process of character creation itself. It's something to work on. It's like the kid at the birthday party who keeps making a big deal about how their parents rented ponies for the party. Sure, they're not a bad kid; they probably don't even recognize how others will respond. But a mentally healthy individual can probably detect that this child's relationship with wealth is different than that of other children at the party. I think a mentally healthy person not only notices, but responds to, the sense that another person is trying to assert their superiority. When the message is, "You are weaker than a man. A man would destroy you in physical combat," the question becomes, why is this message being broadcast? I understand the words. What is the significance? What if you lived in a world where a couple of times a week, Brock Lesnar wolf-whistled at you on the way home from work? As exhibits A and B, I present WWI and WWII. Of course. Once you change the context, the meaning is different. We are talking about context. More to the point, even if they have high self-respect, they have a negative self-[i]concept[/i] because their daily reality requires them to battle negative stereotypes. How would you being a Mexican sitting in a room mostly full of white people, talking honestly and abstractly about the problem of illegal immigration? Would it make a difference if your mother had gotten her hands hit with a ruler when she was a child for speaking her native Spanish at school? It's a potentially very interesting and worthwhile journey. The first thing to realize is that many of the things that are most relevant to women, are invisible to men. [/QUOTE]
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