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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 5557440" data-attributes="member: 3400"><p>Perhaps you should ask women interested in playing powerful fighters in said theoretical campaign if they'd have negative feelings about being unable to have the same mechanical advantages as the powerful, but male, fighter next to them? It's all well and good for you to postulate that there will be no negative consequences, assuming you aren't the one facing the mechanical inferiority.</p><p>But at least the publishers of D&D since 2e have gotten it into their heads that the difference in strength was offering nothing of value over and above the downside. And that was the right decision.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Frankly, I'm not that fussed about the entire history of the world. I'm interested in the experience of my players at the table now. And since a significant proportion of my players are women, one of whom is playing a high strength fighter, I'm going to give history a pass in favor of giving them the same access to experiences as the male players.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No matter how much lipstick you put on a pig, it's still a pig. In this case, it's still a 2 point deficit compared to the other PC.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I generally don't sweat a +1 difference either, but if there's anything we've learned from the hard-core optimizer crowd, a +1 will makes all the difference in the world. It's the reason for the difference that rankles.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>You might want to look at other posts in the thread like Elf Witch who had to deal with a cap on strength. Tell me she didn't feel like a second class player. Maybe ask other women who played D&D back in those days if they felt a bit alienated from the game because of the strength cap. Maybe you'll notice that some of them felt like second class players.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Notice, however, that in order to be as effective, <strong>they have to have a different concept</strong>. There are certain options that just aren't available to them at the same level of effectiveness. They can't play with the boys, at a game that's cerebral not physical in its fundamentals, in the same way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="billd91, post: 5557440, member: 3400"] Perhaps you should ask women interested in playing powerful fighters in said theoretical campaign if they'd have negative feelings about being unable to have the same mechanical advantages as the powerful, but male, fighter next to them? It's all well and good for you to postulate that there will be no negative consequences, assuming you aren't the one facing the mechanical inferiority. But at least the publishers of D&D since 2e have gotten it into their heads that the difference in strength was offering nothing of value over and above the downside. And that was the right decision. Frankly, I'm not that fussed about the entire history of the world. I'm interested in the experience of my players at the table now. And since a significant proportion of my players are women, one of whom is playing a high strength fighter, I'm going to give history a pass in favor of giving them the same access to experiences as the male players. No matter how much lipstick you put on a pig, it's still a pig. In this case, it's still a 2 point deficit compared to the other PC. I generally don't sweat a +1 difference either, but if there's anything we've learned from the hard-core optimizer crowd, a +1 will makes all the difference in the world. It's the reason for the difference that rankles. You might want to look at other posts in the thread like Elf Witch who had to deal with a cap on strength. Tell me she didn't feel like a second class player. Maybe ask other women who played D&D back in those days if they felt a bit alienated from the game because of the strength cap. Maybe you'll notice that some of them felt like second class players. Notice, however, that in order to be as effective, [b]they have to have a different concept[/b]. There are certain options that just aren't available to them at the same level of effectiveness. They can't play with the boys, at a game that's cerebral not physical in its fundamentals, in the same way. [/QUOTE]
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