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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5560206" data-attributes="member: 4937">I'm not sure, but one obvious answer is that they are trying to loosely enforce gender based differences in the game.   Ok, fine.  But it's worth noting that she wasn't.  And generally, in fantasy literature even the 'kick butt girl' finds that some male nemesis is stronger than her and has to defeat him by a combination of wits, skill, and agility.   It's probably a trope.  Even fantasy literature which you are falling back on as a defense in this case tends to treat men and women as being different, even in the cases where it is trying to elevate and encourage women. (Which I might not is not necessarily the motive behind 'Red Sonya' and if anything the opposite is probably true.  She's male fan-service, not an example of actual admiration of the feminine).  Nothing prevents a women from being supernaturally strong as well.  None of the feats of strength you describe need be off limits to a hypothetical female brute.  Honestly I hear that sort of thing and I just tune out.  Sexism is such a mindless and reflexive charge these days that its become meaningless.  I'm married to a woman with a Ph.D. and who can out run me at distance.  The notion that I'm afraid of strong women is so laughable on its face that I tend to just assume issues on the part of anyone who brings it up and thereafter ignore them as beyond my help.  As means of shutting down debate, cries of 'sexism' are great;  as a means of demonstrating anything or convincing anyone they pretty much suck.Presumably because gender differences are real and something more relevant to a deep and meaningful discussion than the ability to go toe to toe with a frost giant.   If we erase gender differences, then we are essentially tabling them for discussion.   Some in this thread have indicated that they should be erased precisely for that reason, because the very discussion of them is distasteful or even threatening, and that's fine.  I'm not going to judge that either except to say that I think you should see that as your problem and not someone elses.  Maybe the game is better for you if they are tabled, in which case I heartily endorse your decision.  I just don't endorse your blanket condemnation of anyone that disagrees.Perhaps.  I'm not here to provide judgement over why someone would do this; I'm merely noting that there could be some reasonableness to it.  My primary interest in this thread has been to act as some of a counter balance to the reflexive cries of sexism.   Whether I've made anyone think I have no idea.</blockquote>

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