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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5561472" data-attributes="member: 4937">Except that isn't what I asked you.  I didn't ask you if there were 60lb animals weaker than humans, that question is uninteresting and the answer is intuitive.  No, I asked you if you wanted to insist that there weren't 60lb animals as a strong as humans.  Apparantly you don't think that there are.Let's look at a few animals that have average weights below that of average humans:"In search of safety, leopards often stash their young or recent kills high up in a tree. They were observed hauling carcasses of young giraffe, estimated to weigh up to 125 kg (280 lb), 2–3 times the weight of the leopard, up to 5.7 m (19 ft) into trees."  - wikipediaGranted there is overlap between humans and leopards in terms of size, but I think that it is well established that pound for pound leopards are stronger than humans.Caracals are much smaller animals than leopards but they are capable of proportionally similar feats.  On the opposite end, jagaurs are a bit heavier than a leapord but also capable of proportionally similar feat (climbing while lifting three times there own body weight).And then there is the chimpanzee I've previously mentioned.  Chimps tend to be smaller than humans.  A big male chimp is right around the weight of an average male human, while atheletic humans often reach 270lbs or more.  But for whatever number you select as reasonable for a human to lift and move with, chimpanzees of the same weight can lift and move twice that.  Definitively answering your challenge is difficult mainly because the strengths of likely 40-60 lb animals (lynx, caracal, wolverine) have been poorly studied.  The one that has been well studied (the dog) is not one I would have picked for being exceptionally strong because like humans it is an endurance predator, and in any event it was hard to come up with data for humans performing the same tasks dogs are normally measured at.  However, I think it is clear that 40-60 lb dogs are much stronger than 40-60 lb human children, so comparing halflings to human 5 year olds is far from a valid comparison.</blockquote>

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