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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 5563329" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p>How did you come by the differences in strength? Do you weight lift or keep up with weight lifting?</p><p></p><p>Men are nearly 40% stronger than women in the upper body. The RAW bench press record for a superheavyweight female with no shirt is around 400 lbs. For a male around 700 lbs.</p><p></p><p>And about 30% stronger in the legs.</p><p></p><p>Even extremely large females cannot attain the mass and power of a male of equal height. </p><p></p><p>And you are suggesting constitution superiority by females. They do have pretty much equal muscular endurance, especially with the legs. They still can't compete in marathons and endurance competitions with males.</p><p></p><p>Even extraordinary female athletes like Venus and Serena Williams had trouble competing against top 200 male tennis players. Serve speed for the female is far lower for a strong female like Serena or Venus and a top 200 male.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You seem to implying that male versus female physical superiority isn't that great. But that isn't true. Males are physically superior to females by such a extraordinary margin that they can't even fairly compete against each other in physical activities. Even such activities as tennis and golf which only require moderate physical power and strength.</p><p></p><p>In the violent sports like football, rugby, and boxing, they have virtually no chance of competing against a male unless he is very inferior male.</p><p></p><p>So I'm not sure why you think a +1 ability score is sufficient to show that level of physical dominance.</p><p></p><p>In fact, the only notable female warrior group in history is the Amazons. And they were not proven to exist and their empire is unknown. There have been some notable female warriors in history such as Mathilda a German warrior queen and Joan of Arc. But neither was known for their individual fighting ability being greater than a males, rather than they were known for extraordinary leadership or tactical acumen.</p><p></p><p>I'm not encouraging incorporating physical differences in a game. No real need for it. We're playing Red Sonja more than real world history. So I see no need to incorporate such differences.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But you are very mistaken assuming male physical dominance is minor. Male physical dominance and aggression is the entire reason why for all of human history males have dominated every society, with rare exception, in the entire world. I often hear the socialization process was the reason. That is bunk because the socialization process would have never occurred if at any point in human history females were equal physically to males and had similar aggression.</p><p></p><p>It's also been a negative and may be why male aggression is being bred out of males. We males start 99% of wars, we do most murders, serial killing, random acts of violence, rapes, and physical child abuse and the like. There is a price to pay for the way we are physically built. It does affect the male mentality both positively and negatively. You would have a very difficult time in a fantasy world integrating all the ways females and males are different. </p><p></p><p>At the end of the day, it's fantasy. So who cares. I have males like that playing a female character that smacks people down because it's fun to their imagination. They certainly don't want to be limited because someone wants to simulate real world differences between males and females. I don't think in a game that would go too well.</p><p></p><p>It would be like trying to integrate the physical differences between African, European, and Asian males. Sure, there are some differences, smaller differences than between men and women, but they still exist and are medically documented. But why worry about it. It's a fantasy game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 5563329, member: 5834"] How did you come by the differences in strength? Do you weight lift or keep up with weight lifting? Men are nearly 40% stronger than women in the upper body. The RAW bench press record for a superheavyweight female with no shirt is around 400 lbs. For a male around 700 lbs. And about 30% stronger in the legs. Even extremely large females cannot attain the mass and power of a male of equal height. And you are suggesting constitution superiority by females. They do have pretty much equal muscular endurance, especially with the legs. They still can't compete in marathons and endurance competitions with males. Even extraordinary female athletes like Venus and Serena Williams had trouble competing against top 200 male tennis players. Serve speed for the female is far lower for a strong female like Serena or Venus and a top 200 male. You seem to implying that male versus female physical superiority isn't that great. But that isn't true. Males are physically superior to females by such a extraordinary margin that they can't even fairly compete against each other in physical activities. Even such activities as tennis and golf which only require moderate physical power and strength. In the violent sports like football, rugby, and boxing, they have virtually no chance of competing against a male unless he is very inferior male. So I'm not sure why you think a +1 ability score is sufficient to show that level of physical dominance. In fact, the only notable female warrior group in history is the Amazons. And they were not proven to exist and their empire is unknown. There have been some notable female warriors in history such as Mathilda a German warrior queen and Joan of Arc. But neither was known for their individual fighting ability being greater than a males, rather than they were known for extraordinary leadership or tactical acumen. I'm not encouraging incorporating physical differences in a game. No real need for it. We're playing Red Sonja more than real world history. So I see no need to incorporate such differences. But you are very mistaken assuming male physical dominance is minor. Male physical dominance and aggression is the entire reason why for all of human history males have dominated every society, with rare exception, in the entire world. I often hear the socialization process was the reason. That is bunk because the socialization process would have never occurred if at any point in human history females were equal physically to males and had similar aggression. It's also been a negative and may be why male aggression is being bred out of males. We males start 99% of wars, we do most murders, serial killing, random acts of violence, rapes, and physical child abuse and the like. There is a price to pay for the way we are physically built. It does affect the male mentality both positively and negatively. You would have a very difficult time in a fantasy world integrating all the ways females and males are different. At the end of the day, it's fantasy. So who cares. I have males like that playing a female character that smacks people down because it's fun to their imagination. They certainly don't want to be limited because someone wants to simulate real world differences between males and females. I don't think in a game that would go too well. It would be like trying to integrate the physical differences between African, European, and Asian males. Sure, there are some differences, smaller differences than between men and women, but they still exist and are medically documented. But why worry about it. It's a fantasy game. [/QUOTE]
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