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<blockquote data-quote="DalkonCledwin" data-source="post: 5984922" data-attributes="member: 6680145"><p>the thing is... Copying a spell from a spellbook is not supposed to be as expensive as copying a spell from a scroll. I mean if it were just as expensive to copy a spell from a spellbook as it is to copy a spell from a scroll, then I am looking at spending 35 gold pieces each and everytime I want to copy one of my OWN 1st level spells from one of my OWN spellbooks into a new spellbook that also belongs to ME. Do you see how much of a hassle this would begin to be? Especially once we start having to pay the cost of copying spells of the 8th and 9th levels...</p><p></p><p>Say I have a 20th level Wizard, who wants to copy a total of 5 20th level spells from one of his spellbooks to another of his spellbooks. We are talking about forcing him to spend 23,175 GP on scribing materials alone just to copy spells from one of his own spellbooks to another of his own spellbooks. And yes that is essentially what your rules require by proxy. In effect forcing the mage to pay that cost twice for the same spells (assuming the spells in question weren't ones he learned at level up). Thats a total of 18 percent of the expected wealth of a person who just turned level 20 (granted LPF has slightly higher expectations of wealth than a standard campaign, but still).</p><p></p><p>When you state that it costs the same cost in order to copy a spell into a spellbook from another spellbook when first learning it, it logically also costs the same to copy it from an old spellbook into a new spellbook of the same caster. The reason for this is because the laws of magic require that the same materials that are used for scribing a spell you just learned also be used when copying spells from one spellbook to another regardless of whether you already knew the spell or not.</p><p></p><p>Does no one see the logical fallacy here? There is a reason why the Core Rulebook does not make the cost of copying spells from a scroll the same as copying spells from another spellbook. It becomes logistically impossible to continuously pay for the cost of scrolls as well as the cost of updating spellbooks. Especially once you start adding multiple spellbooks to your own library as many wizards end up doing over the course of their careers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DalkonCledwin, post: 5984922, member: 6680145"] the thing is... Copying a spell from a spellbook is not supposed to be as expensive as copying a spell from a scroll. I mean if it were just as expensive to copy a spell from a spellbook as it is to copy a spell from a scroll, then I am looking at spending 35 gold pieces each and everytime I want to copy one of my OWN 1st level spells from one of my OWN spellbooks into a new spellbook that also belongs to ME. Do you see how much of a hassle this would begin to be? Especially once we start having to pay the cost of copying spells of the 8th and 9th levels... Say I have a 20th level Wizard, who wants to copy a total of 5 20th level spells from one of his spellbooks to another of his spellbooks. We are talking about forcing him to spend 23,175 GP on scribing materials alone just to copy spells from one of his own spellbooks to another of his own spellbooks. And yes that is essentially what your rules require by proxy. In effect forcing the mage to pay that cost twice for the same spells (assuming the spells in question weren't ones he learned at level up). Thats a total of 18 percent of the expected wealth of a person who just turned level 20 (granted LPF has slightly higher expectations of wealth than a standard campaign, but still). When you state that it costs the same cost in order to copy a spell into a spellbook from another spellbook when first learning it, it logically also costs the same to copy it from an old spellbook into a new spellbook of the same caster. The reason for this is because the laws of magic require that the same materials that are used for scribing a spell you just learned also be used when copying spells from one spellbook to another regardless of whether you already knew the spell or not. Does no one see the logical fallacy here? There is a reason why the Core Rulebook does not make the cost of copying spells from a scroll the same as copying spells from another spellbook. It becomes logistically impossible to continuously pay for the cost of scrolls as well as the cost of updating spellbooks. Especially once you start adding multiple spellbooks to your own library as many wizards end up doing over the course of their careers. [/QUOTE]
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