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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DalkonCledwin" data-source="post: 5984997" data-attributes="member: 6680145">Looking at it from the perspective of a magus wanting to transcribe his or her entire library to a new set of spellbooks (something that would likely have to occur at least once or twice in the lifetime of an elf, assuming that said Elf does not have magical spellbooks such as the Blessed Book that withstand the ravages of time) then a conservative estimate (where I don't take into account the price of spells learned via scrolls or other spellbooks) places the cost of transcribing the spells at somewhere around 30,047.5 GP. That is for a total of 113 spells and cantrips. A Respectable Magus would have a far larger library than that. That said, a Wizard with only access to 6th level spells would be of 11th level, and at 11th level the WBL tables place the expected wealth of a character at somewhere around 82,000 GP. So to expect a level 11 character to spend somewhere on the order of 30,047.5 GP to transcribe his or her entire library or heck just 2010 GP to copy a single spell from a friends spellbook... is kind of screwy.You guys do realize that Living Pathfinder is the only system I know of that penalizes people for copying spells from a friends spellbook or a spellbook that they find on an adventure, right? At this point it may just be easier to start casting spells directly out of said found spellbooks instead of transcribing them directly into your own spellbook. At least that way you don't have to pay the additional cost of transcribing them into your own spellbook. The only drawback is that some wizards or magi booby trap their spellbooks.Oh and Satin Knights, slight correction. The Bonded Item Boon that allows a Wizard to cast any spell out of his or her spellbook spontaneously.... as far as I know only applies to that specific spellbook (i.e. the Bonded Item itself). It does not however apply to additional spellbooks. So as soon as the Bonded Item runs out of pages, that is the end of the bonded items utility as a means to casting spontaneous spells. As far as I know anyways. And if that ability is your reason for penalizing all spellcasters that cast spells out of spellbooks. Good job, because not all spellcasting classes that use spellbooks happen to have access to the bonded item ability. Magi for example do not gain that benefit unless it is through various alternative methods of gaining (it is not one of their native abilities) so penalizing them for a wizard ability seems a bit much to me.EDIT: Also my complaint has nothing to do with buying every single spell possible as you seem to think. Rather it has to do with the fact that Living Pathfinder seems to be willing to put additional rules onto things that really have no need of having additional rules put onto them. Especially when they tend to balance themselves out. When you can show me a Wizard who can realistically carry around 40 or 50 full size spellbooks and a couple of blessed books, just so he can have every spell in the Compendium of Magic A-Z (old D&D Books that listed every magic spell both official and fan made back in the day, there were 4 of them), and who has somehow discovered a way to cast divine spells as if they were arcane spells. I will politely concede my point that having said Wizard pay his entire fortune to copy his spells into those spellbooks was worth it.</blockquote>

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