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<blockquote data-quote="Samnell" data-source="post: 3055229" data-attributes="member: 130"><p>There are two interesting questions here. 1) would the guarantees we are used to as residents of developed democracies even exist in Eritrea where the Institute is located? Eritrean law would seem to be the relevant one for any surveilance. 2) if local law does not apply then the Institute must be extraterritorial, like an embassy or an old time treaty port. If that is the case, what law does apply? If it's just basic international law, then we have very few real guarantees as persons. International law is mostly about the interactions of states and tends to be both vaguely defined and poorly-enforced.</p><p></p><p>While it's likely that as an ordinary thing the UNJE extends most of the usual human rights provisions, it's possible that this is seen more as a moral favor than a claim we would have against it should such grants be ceased. Further complicating things for us team members is that legally we're probably seen to have forfeited a large number of our rights by signing the contracts. I expect that if Paragon really wanted to he might bring us up before courts-martial instead of packing us off to the Hague or something.</p><p></p><p>...but now I'm just speculating about entertaining technicalities. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Samnell, post: 3055229, member: 130"] There are two interesting questions here. 1) would the guarantees we are used to as residents of developed democracies even exist in Eritrea where the Institute is located? Eritrean law would seem to be the relevant one for any surveilance. 2) if local law does not apply then the Institute must be extraterritorial, like an embassy or an old time treaty port. If that is the case, what law does apply? If it's just basic international law, then we have very few real guarantees as persons. International law is mostly about the interactions of states and tends to be both vaguely defined and poorly-enforced. While it's likely that as an ordinary thing the UNJE extends most of the usual human rights provisions, it's possible that this is seen more as a moral favor than a claim we would have against it should such grants be ceased. Further complicating things for us team members is that legally we're probably seen to have forfeited a large number of our rights by signing the contracts. I expect that if Paragon really wanted to he might bring us up before courts-martial instead of packing us off to the Hague or something. ...but now I'm just speculating about entertaining technicalities. :) [/QUOTE]
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