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<blockquote data-quote="FreeTheSlaves" data-source="post: 2247308" data-attributes="member: 9952"><p>Fair point. Beginning stats are simply not good enough for higher level play and that leads us to ask why so?</p><p></p><p>Our characters stats are assumed to need enhancers, inherent and level boosts. These are from sources that deserve a bit of attention:</p><p>1) By Level - a gradual increase representing the growth of raw capability given many experiences. Slow but guaranteed progression.</p><p>2) Inherent - sourced from very hard to get wishes, miracles and expensive tomes. Very difficult & expensive to aquire. This is also a mechanic for the DM to use for special rewards.</p><p>3) Enhancers - the cheapest and largest bonus available. This is part of the D&D magic item legacy where higher level characters are marked by the treasure they acquire.</p><p></p><p>If D&D granted one set of stats at character creation that were good enough for all levels then we wouldn't have character growth in this field. The CR system could be recalibrated to take a new baseline of expected stats into mind, so this is not inconceivable. Ditching the enhancers, whether they are incorporated or not, will in effect eliminate a favourite treasure find.</p><p></p><p>Back to 25pt buy - this is a weak pt buy build I admit, but it creates a massive contrast between low and higher level characters. This, imo, accentuates the character development by making any increase more meaningful: e.g. increasing str15 to str17 is more pronounced than str17 to str19 - one gives a 50% increase in the bonus while the other is 33%.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FreeTheSlaves, post: 2247308, member: 9952"] Fair point. Beginning stats are simply not good enough for higher level play and that leads us to ask why so? Our characters stats are assumed to need enhancers, inherent and level boosts. These are from sources that deserve a bit of attention: 1) By Level - a gradual increase representing the growth of raw capability given many experiences. Slow but guaranteed progression. 2) Inherent - sourced from very hard to get wishes, miracles and expensive tomes. Very difficult & expensive to aquire. This is also a mechanic for the DM to use for special rewards. 3) Enhancers - the cheapest and largest bonus available. This is part of the D&D magic item legacy where higher level characters are marked by the treasure they acquire. If D&D granted one set of stats at character creation that were good enough for all levels then we wouldn't have character growth in this field. The CR system could be recalibrated to take a new baseline of expected stats into mind, so this is not inconceivable. Ditching the enhancers, whether they are incorporated or not, will in effect eliminate a favourite treasure find. Back to 25pt buy - this is a weak pt buy build I admit, but it creates a massive contrast between low and higher level characters. This, imo, accentuates the character development by making any increase more meaningful: e.g. increasing str15 to str17 is more pronounced than str17 to str19 - one gives a 50% increase in the bonus while the other is 33%. [/QUOTE]
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