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<blockquote data-quote="Shasarak" data-source="post: 7561861" data-attributes="member: 94143">It is a strawman because your plan just does not work.&nbsp; Why would you have a set capacity of, just for an example, 100 people on your ship and then start with the maximum population already on board?&nbsp; That would mean that you have to wait for someone to die before having any children to &quot;replace&quot; them.&nbsp; Which means that for the next 15 to 20 years or so you are having to some how get by without someone that you really really needed.And likewise for machinery, why would you be operating at 100% capacity all of the time?&nbsp; How do you maintain something if you literally can not turn it off without killing everyone on board?&nbsp; I mean I am not an Engineer and even I can see that would be a badly designed ship to try and travel 1000 years in.Population control is not hard we have it now, it is called the contraceptive.&nbsp; The largest country on earth practises a pretty extreme version of it right now.&nbsp;&nbsp; The best way to deal with population control would be through a social agreement with exceptions built in to take into account those people who dont want to or are not able to have children. And as for forced job assignment, would you personally want to be traveling through space in a ship that is maintained by who ever is born into the Engineering class or would you prefer that position to be filled by the person who is best qualified?&nbsp; Hereditary systems dont work on Earth so why would you try it on a Generation ship?So that is why I think that your whole proposal can be summed up as a Strawman, something that is set up because it is easier to defeat than a real argument.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shasarak, post: 7561861, member: 94143"] It is a strawman because your plan just does not work. Why would you have a set capacity of, just for an example, 100 people on your ship and then start with the maximum population already on board? That would mean that you have to wait for someone to die before having any children to "replace" them. Which means that for the next 15 to 20 years or so you are having to some how get by without someone that you really really needed. And likewise for machinery, why would you be operating at 100% capacity all of the time? How do you maintain something if you literally can not turn it off without killing everyone on board? I mean I am not an Engineer and even I can see that would be a badly designed ship to try and travel 1000 years in. Population control is not hard we have it now, it is called the contraceptive. The largest country on earth practises a pretty extreme version of it right now. The best way to deal with population control would be through a social agreement with exceptions built in to take into account those people who dont want to or are not able to have children. And as for forced job assignment, would you personally want to be traveling through space in a ship that is maintained by who ever is born into the Engineering class or would you prefer that position to be filled by the person who is best qualified? Hereditary systems dont work on Earth so why would you try it on a Generation ship? So that is why I think that your whole proposal can be summed up as a Strawman, something that is set up because it is easier to defeat than a real argument. [/QUOTE]

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