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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7562620" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Totally agree. But, are we now going to allow those 10000 people to give up their reproductive rights for all following generations? The choices that these people make now will be binding on EVERY subsequent generation. How is that not a massive rights violation?</p><p></p><p>I'm not really sure of the morality of allowing a decision to bind then next dozen, or dozens, of generations.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Umm, no you don't. As you travel further and further from Earth, it takes longer and longer for each signal to get back and forth. As in by the time you reach even the closest star, messages are taking decades to go back and forth.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, now, we're investing hundreds, perhaps thousands of years of Earth's resources as well? A project that is going to be massively expensive, won't pay off for a thousand years, and will be ongoing for dozens of generations without fail? </p><p></p><p>Again, good luck with that.</p><p></p><p>AFAIC, generation ships make good SF but terrible reality. It's just not feasible. You need a closed system with nearly perfect recycling (never minding the violations of thermodynamics that requires), where you are going to consign thousands of people to what is tantamount to slavery for hundreds if not thousands of years, while at the same time supporting said mission for hundreds, if not thousands of years, from Earth. </p><p></p><p>We still haven't even talked about how you build this structure in the first place. Something that will house ten thousand people that has a propulsion system that will function for hundreds of years while still managing to keep everyone on board alive? </p><p></p><p>Good grief, the ISS is the most expensive man made structure in history. It houses less than a dozen people in rotating shifts and doesn't actually go anywhere. You're talking something that is several orders of magnitude more expensive to build and maintain. There is just zero chance of this ever (ahem) getting off the ground.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7562620, member: 22779"] Totally agree. But, are we now going to allow those 10000 people to give up their reproductive rights for all following generations? The choices that these people make now will be binding on EVERY subsequent generation. How is that not a massive rights violation? I'm not really sure of the morality of allowing a decision to bind then next dozen, or dozens, of generations. Umm, no you don't. As you travel further and further from Earth, it takes longer and longer for each signal to get back and forth. As in by the time you reach even the closest star, messages are taking decades to go back and forth. So, now, we're investing hundreds, perhaps thousands of years of Earth's resources as well? A project that is going to be massively expensive, won't pay off for a thousand years, and will be ongoing for dozens of generations without fail? Again, good luck with that. AFAIC, generation ships make good SF but terrible reality. It's just not feasible. You need a closed system with nearly perfect recycling (never minding the violations of thermodynamics that requires), where you are going to consign thousands of people to what is tantamount to slavery for hundreds if not thousands of years, while at the same time supporting said mission for hundreds, if not thousands of years, from Earth. We still haven't even talked about how you build this structure in the first place. Something that will house ten thousand people that has a propulsion system that will function for hundreds of years while still managing to keep everyone on board alive? Good grief, the ISS is the most expensive man made structure in history. It houses less than a dozen people in rotating shifts and doesn't actually go anywhere. You're talking something that is several orders of magnitude more expensive to build and maintain. There is just zero chance of this ever (ahem) getting off the ground. [/QUOTE]
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