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<blockquote data-quote="sirwmholder" data-source="post: 3686989" data-attributes="member: 41558">I've looked at buy the numbers but my group isn't quite ready for that yet. They still need some kind of chart to follow. Currently we are looking at having just two base classes one with a high BAB and larger HD the other with casting, poor BAB and smaller HD. All former class abilities can be bought as feats provided you meet the prerequisite except for (Su) or Spell-like abilities... in those cases learn the spell to do it.The main reason this came about was due to Elements of Magic. My group loves this product. As a side effect they determined there was no longer a need for a Wizard, Sorcerer, Psion, Druid or Cleric. A Mage built the way the player wanted would give him full control over what he could cast. Soon the question came up... can we do the same for all the Fighter and Rogue variants out there? After looking the generic classes over it seemed easier to give a slight bump in skills to both the Warrior and Caster and just remove the Expert. So that's why I posted the question would it be game breaking to lose the Expert class if both the Warrior and Caster had their skill points slightly increased?Thanks for your honesty <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. It helps to know that I'm not a total whack job <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />.Thank you both for your time,William Holder</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sirwmholder, post: 3686989, member: 41558"] I've looked at buy the numbers but my group isn't quite ready for that yet. They still need some kind of chart to follow. Currently we are looking at having just two base classes one with a high BAB and larger HD the other with casting, poor BAB and smaller HD. All former class abilities can be bought as feats provided you meet the prerequisite except for (Su) or Spell-like abilities... in those cases learn the spell to do it. The main reason this came about was due to Elements of Magic. My group loves this product. As a side effect they determined there was no longer a need for a Wizard, Sorcerer, Psion, Druid or Cleric. A Mage built the way the player wanted would give him full control over what he could cast. Soon the question came up... can we do the same for all the Fighter and Rogue variants out there? After looking the generic classes over it seemed easier to give a slight bump in skills to both the Warrior and Caster and just remove the Expert. So that's why I posted the question would it be game breaking to lose the Expert class if both the Warrior and Caster had their skill points slightly increased? Thanks for your honesty :). It helps to know that I'm not a total whack job ;). Thank you both for your time, William Holder [/QUOTE]

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