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<blockquote data-quote="Daedrova" data-source="post: 944139" data-attributes="member: 11835"><p>While I can say I understand where this opinion stems from, I must disagree.</p><p>While the alignment of a dragon "type" holds true for most of that color/alloy, also remember that exceptions are possible. Does anyone remember that all Drow are "evil". (Drizzt, who?)</p><p>Aside from that, Dragons are still supposed to be powerful, beautiful, magnificent, awe and fear inspiring creatures, no matter their alignment.... Even if Alignment were some type of straight jacket that predetermined the way the dragon reacted in any given situation. Note that the word “dragon” in the previous sentence could be replaced with the word "character", referring either to a PC with a particular alignment, or the actual character qualities and personality of said subject.</p><p>Cliché- What? How? </p><p>Because they are a particular alignment? That they are in some way defined from their concept or creation? Then H***, all classes are cheesy/cliché, alignments themselves are cheesy/cliché, drow are cheesy/cliché... all monsters and races for that matter are cheesy/cliché. As a matter of fact, anything within any RPG is or can be cliché, depending on our perceptions regarding it. RPGs themselves can be cliché (with plot hooks, conflicts, character development)</p><p>It is likely that such an unfavorable view has been unfortunately shaped from very poor or cheesy/cliché campaigns where all the dragons were carbon copy, that we may have known what to expect from each dragon in some particular situation... (by the way, taking that sort of thinking into the game/allowing your characters actions to be altered by it, is meta-game thinking.) </p><p>Perhaps someone could offer a more of a supported opinion on why they feel this way, avoiding thoughts like "D&D dragons are cliché because they are the way they are in D&D"</p><p>I do not want to seem like I am insulting any person's opinion, it is after all, just that, and each one is entitled to his own... of course. It is just seems to put a label where none need be...</p><p>Truthfully, the idea of these things being cliché or not will be subject to its freshness in each of our minds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Daedrova, post: 944139, member: 11835"] While I can say I understand where this opinion stems from, I must disagree. While the alignment of a dragon "type" holds true for most of that color/alloy, also remember that exceptions are possible. Does anyone remember that all Drow are "evil". (Drizzt, who?) Aside from that, Dragons are still supposed to be powerful, beautiful, magnificent, awe and fear inspiring creatures, no matter their alignment.... Even if Alignment were some type of straight jacket that predetermined the way the dragon reacted in any given situation. Note that the word “dragon” in the previous sentence could be replaced with the word "character", referring either to a PC with a particular alignment, or the actual character qualities and personality of said subject. Cliché- What? How? Because they are a particular alignment? That they are in some way defined from their concept or creation? Then H***, all classes are cheesy/cliché, alignments themselves are cheesy/cliché, drow are cheesy/cliché... all monsters and races for that matter are cheesy/cliché. As a matter of fact, anything within any RPG is or can be cliché, depending on our perceptions regarding it. RPGs themselves can be cliché (with plot hooks, conflicts, character development) It is likely that such an unfavorable view has been unfortunately shaped from very poor or cheesy/cliché campaigns where all the dragons were carbon copy, that we may have known what to expect from each dragon in some particular situation... (by the way, taking that sort of thinking into the game/allowing your characters actions to be altered by it, is meta-game thinking.) Perhaps someone could offer a more of a supported opinion on why they feel this way, avoiding thoughts like "D&D dragons are cliché because they are the way they are in D&D" I do not want to seem like I am insulting any person's opinion, it is after all, just that, and each one is entitled to his own... of course. It is just seems to put a label where none need be... Truthfully, the idea of these things being cliché or not will be subject to its freshness in each of our minds. [/QUOTE]
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