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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 6867444" data-attributes="member: 23751">A house rule is fine.&nbsp; Elfcrusher didn't come here to discuss house rules, though.&nbsp; At least his OP didn't say he was.&nbsp; Without it being a house rule discussion, it's a RAW discussion and by RAW his examples don't work.What he described in his first example was charisma being negative and therefore int has a penalty, which is nonsensical.&nbsp; As Danny noted, two of his examples didn't even involve any negatives.&nbsp; They were positives that the PC was deciding not to use.&nbsp; The last example also didn't involve int in any way, but I can't recall it now.The rule is that the int penalty is caused by a lack of mental acuity, accuracy of recall and the ability to reason, not that other stats cause those deficiencies, which in turn cause the penalty.&nbsp; A low charisma isn't going to cause any int deficiencies.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 6867444, member: 23751"] A house rule is fine. Elfcrusher didn't come here to discuss house rules, though. At least his OP didn't say he was. Without it being a house rule discussion, it's a RAW discussion and by RAW his examples don't work. What he described in his first example was charisma being negative and therefore int has a penalty, which is nonsensical. As Danny noted, two of his examples didn't even involve any negatives. They were positives that the PC was deciding not to use. The last example also didn't involve int in any way, but I can't recall it now. The rule is that the int penalty is caused by a lack of mental acuity, accuracy of recall and the ability to reason, not that other stats cause those deficiencies, which in turn cause the penalty. A low charisma isn't going to cause any int deficiencies. [/QUOTE]

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